Übernerd Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 If Plan Sponsor fails to make an RMD, must it notify Participant of Participant's excise tax liability? Or must Participant figure this out herself after she gets the 1099-R? If Plan Sponsor does have an obligation to inform Participant, where does this requirement originate--in the tax regs, or in ERISA's fiduciary rules? As I understand it, Participant must report the late RMD on Form 5329 and include the 50% tax; Participant may also include a request that the IRS waive the excise tax. Nothing in the Form 1099-R instructions, though, says that the sponsor has to characterize a distribution as a late RMD, even if that's what it is. I've looked at the 401(a)(9) regs, the 4974 regs, and the instructions for all the relevant IRS Forms--nothing in any of that about notifying the participant of her excise tax liability. Nothing in EPCRS about it, either (not even in the section on applying for a waiver of that same tax)--it just says to pay the late RMD, plus interest. I'd like to be able to point to a clear requirement that Plan Sponsor step up and disclose, but I'm just not finding one. Has anybody run across the rule? Thanks!
Guest EdShill Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 If Plan Sponsor fails to make an RMD, must it notify Participant of Participant's excise tax liability? Or must Participant figure this out herself after she gets the 1099-R? If Plan Sponsor does have an obligation to inform Participant, where does this requirement originate--in the tax regs, or in ERISA's fiduciary rules? As I understand it, Participant must report the late RMD on Form 5329 and include the 50% tax; Participant may also include a request that the IRS waive the excise tax. Nothing in the Form 1099-R instructions, though, says that the sponsor has to characterize a distribution as a late RMD, even if that's what it is. I've looked at the 401(a)(9) regs, the 4974 regs, and the instructions for all the relevant IRS Forms--nothing in any of that about notifying the participant of her excise tax liability. Nothing in EPCRS about it, either (not even in the section on applying for a waiver of that same tax)--it just says to pay the late RMD, plus interest. I'd like to be able to point to a clear requirement that Plan Sponsor step up and disclose, but I'm just not finding one. Has anybody run across the rule?Thanks! Did you reach any conclusions on this? I am a few steps behind, with similar results so far.
Übernerd Posted January 18, 2006 Author Posted January 18, 2006 If Plan Sponsor fails to make an RMD, must it notify Participant of Participant's excise tax liability? Or must Participant figure this out herself after she gets the 1099-R? If Plan Sponsor does have an obligation to inform Participant, where does this requirement originate--in the tax regs, or in ERISA's fiduciary rules? As I understand it, Participant must report the late RMD on Form 5329 and include the 50% tax; Participant may also include a request that the IRS waive the excise tax. Nothing in the Form 1099-R instructions, though, says that the sponsor has to characterize a distribution as a late RMD, even if that's what it is. I've looked at the 401(a)(9) regs, the 4974 regs, and the instructions for all the relevant IRS Forms--nothing in any of that about notifying the participant of her excise tax liability. Nothing in EPCRS about it, either (not even in the section on applying for a waiver of that same tax)--it just says to pay the late RMD, plus interest. I'd like to be able to point to a clear requirement that Plan Sponsor step up and disclose, but I'm just not finding one. Has anybody run across the rule? Thanks! Did you reach any conclusions on this? I am a few steps behind, with similar results so far. Never found a definitive answer but decided (a) it looked better on the VCP filing (for waiver of the excise tax) to say that we had, and (b) we tend to favor a "forceful" reading of ERISA § 404; so, we gave notice. Don't know if that helps you.
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