Dan Posted September 18, 2006 Posted September 18, 2006 Working with a controlled group has not been too difficult before now. I have a multi-state company that has made a number of acquisitions over the years. All of the divisions participate in the same plan. They have a very complicated ownership structure that leads to four controlled groups. We have always tested these groups as four separate plans. It so happens that the smallest group will be top heavy as of 12/31/06. They asked if there is any way to avoid the top heavy minimum for this small group. Can I combine this small group with one of the larger groups for testing purposes? The research I have done talks about combining two plans, but I am uncertain if that applies to two divisions of the same plan. I appreciate any insight.
austin3515 Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 No can do, for the same reason that CocaCola and Pepsi can't do it for their plans... Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 Dan, you state you have one plan. You state that it's a controlled group, so you don't have a mutiple employer situation. How is it that the whole plan is not top heavy and not just this one portion you cite? "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
GBurns Posted September 19, 2006 Posted September 19, 2006 I am curious as to the "permutations" created by this "complicated ownership structure" that creates 4 separate controlled groups within this corporation, which seems to be more of either a holding company or a equity capital partner of some sort. While anything is possible, I would love to learn more about the creativity behind this structure design. Is it possible to tell us more? George D. Burns Cost Reduction Strategies Burns and Associates, Inc www.costreductionstrategies.com(under construction) www.employeebenefitsstrategies.com(under construction)
Dan Posted September 19, 2006 Author Posted September 19, 2006 I didn't state the structure very well. They are separate employers of a holding company and sponsoring employers of the plan.
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