Guest m2b2 Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 Thanks in advance for your help! I have a client who changed their HCE deferral plan-imposed limit three times during the plan year. Each time increasing the amount the HCE(s) could contribute to the plan. How would you reclass what contributions are catch-up and what are not at year end? On a payroll basis or just based on the plan-imposed limit last in place? Thanks!
JanetM Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 If it were me, I would use the rate in effect at year end. Now if they due a true up match you may have a problem doing that. JanetM CPA, MBA
Tom Poje Posted December 27, 2007 Posted December 27, 2007 when in doubt, read the regs 1. [1.414(v)-1(b)(2)(i)(A)] Sum of $ amounts of the limits for each payroll period. or 2. [1.414(v)-1(b)(2)(i)(B)] weighted average (without looking it up, the example in preamble was something like "the limit was 8% for 6 months and 10% for 6 months, so use 9%) while not quite the same as you described, the example I used at an ASPPA conference was as follows: Plan has a cap of 10% on deferrals. Ee defrred 10% plus a little extra each month for awhile, then stopped deferrals in July comp deferral possible catch-up made Jan 10,000.00 1000.00 10% 416.66 Feb 10,000.00 1000.00 10% 416.66 Mar 10,000.00 1000.00 10% 416.66 Apr 10,000.00 1000.00 10% 416.66 May 10,000.00 1000.00 10% 416.66 Jun 10,000.00 1000.00 10% 416.66 Jul 10,000.00 1000.00 10% 416.66 Aug 10,000.00 0.00 0% 0.00 Sep 10,000.00 0.00 0% 0.00 Oct 10,000.00 0.00 0% 0.00 Nov 10,000.00 0.00 0% 0.00 Dec 10,000.00 0.00 0% 0.00 Tot 120,000.00 7,000.00 2916.62 Total deferrals is only 9,916.62, which is < 10%. No limit reached, no catch up for the year! suppose the reason the ee quit was because the cap was changed from 10% to 3% in Aug. so the most he could have deferred from Aug - Dec would be 300 * 5 months or 1500. thus for the year he could have deferred 8500. anything above that would be catch up. this is an example of the first case.
blue Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 As a follow up questions - is it possible to have a different plan imposed limit for each HCE in the plan? As an example the plan has 15 HCE, would it be possible to have 15 different plan imposed limits?
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