Guest GrndLkNatv Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 So Company A has a Safe Harbor 401k plan, they match 1/2 of the first 8 % of your contributions. The acquiring company, company B has a traditional 401k plan.. 1. Can a Safe Harbor plan be converted to a traditional 401k plan? 2. Will company B's employees be grandfathered into their current plan? 3. What else can happen or what would normally happen in this situation??
WDIK Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 they match 1/2 of the first 8 % of your contributions. I don't think this is a safe harbor match. ...but then again, What Do I Know?
Guest GrndLkNatv Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 they match 1/2 of the first 8 % of your contributions. I don't think this is a safe harbor match. They match 3%, it is a safe harbor, just asked HR.
WDIK Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Without getting into the "enhanced" match, my understanding of the safe harbor match is: 100% of the first 3% deferred, plus 50% of the next 2% deferred. Neither of the two scenarios you have stated meet that requirement. I'm not trying to be belligerent, just making sure that we are actually talking about a safe harbor plan so that board members can more accurately address your questions. ...but then again, What Do I Know?
John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 It could be a 3% nonelective Safe Harbor also. For some reason we find many plan sponsors referring to their 3% Safe Harbor nonelective contribution as a match, even though it is not tied to the participant making a deferral.
Tom Poje Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 of course there are no clear guidelines at this time how to handle your scenario. A safe-harbor plan is suppose to be 12 months long. and you can't aggregate a safe harbor with a non safe harbor (or at least aggregate and get the safe harbor free ride) My guess (and I do mean guess) at the cleanest way to handle things is simply continue with plans is until the end of the year and then merge one way or the other. you did not indicate if it was a stock acquisition or asset purchase, and that probably makes a big difference. If my feeble brain remembers, coverage is not (or shouldn't be) an issue because of the acquistion free -ride rules. nondiscrim might be an issue (but not in the safe harbor). I suppose what becomes an issue is if the employees involved in the takeover become immediately eligible for the other plan (hopefully not)
david rigby Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 As usual, Tom offers good comments. Another scenario to consider: after acquisition, will some A employees "transfer" elsewhere within B, which (at least on its surface) could alter the benefits package applicable to that person? These coverage issues should be addressed prior to closing the sale. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
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