justatester Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I need some direction... Here is the situation: Plan A and B are part of a Controlled Group. Each plan on passes Coverage. Plan A: Match formula is 100% up to 3% Plan B: Match formula is 100% up to 4% for Location X and 50% up to 10% for location Y Since there are differenct formulas within Plan B a BRF test is needed. When running the BRF test, do I only consider the employees of Plan B? Or do I have to considered all employees in the controlled group. I have always been under the impression that once a plan passes coverage ALL discrimination testing is done on the plan basis not the controlled group basis. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated as well as regulations for reference!
Tom Poje Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 something appears to be missing in your description on how the testing was performed. 1.401(a)(4)-9(a) is clear that if you permissively aggregate plans and treat them as a single plan under 1.410(b)-7(d) (coverage) then you MUST also treat them as a single plan for purposes of section 401(a)(4) [nondiscrim] so it would certainly be incorrect to say "once a plan passes coverage ALL discrimination testing is done on the plan basis not the controlled group basis." if you permissively aggregated the plans for purposes of coverage.
justatester Posted July 15, 2009 Author Posted July 15, 2009 They are not permissively aggregated for coverage testing. Each plan passes coverage on their own taking the other plan into consideration. So the plans are treated separately for ADP/ACP. So does that mean the plans can be treated separately for BRF. For Plan A, a BRF is not required. For Plan B, since there are two match formulas, a BRF would be required. I guess my quesition is when running the BRF for Plan B, do I need to treat Plan A participants as non excludable not benefiting?
Tom Poje Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 my logic says since the plans are not permissively aggregated, and you don't include the one group of employees in the ACP test then you wouldn't include them in BRF, though I don't know of any particular cite that actually says.
justatester Posted July 16, 2009 Author Posted July 16, 2009 That is my logic, but I can't find anything to support it.
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