Trekker Posted October 16, 2009 Posted October 16, 2009 LLC, which is treated as a partnership, maintains a Cash Balance Plan and a PSP/401(k). Chief Executive Officer employee works full time for LLC and receives compensation of at least $245,000. LLC expects a partnership operating loss for 2009, a portion of which will be allocated to the CEO. For qualified plan purposes, is the CEO's compensation $245,000 or is it $245,000 less her share of the LLC losses for 2009? Thanks.
Bird Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 I guess you mean that she got "wages" of at least $245K that will be shown on a W-2, and she is also a partner. As has been noted here elsewhere, partners generally aren't supposed to be paid as employees, but apparently it's done all the time. I would definitely net the wages and loss. Ed Snyder
K2retire Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 On the other hand, if the $245,000 was a cash draw not shown on a W-2, her earned income for plan purposes may be the loss.
Bill Presson Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 It's not unusual for a member of an LLC to receive guaranteed payments (which is what the $245,000 likely is) and then have a loss on the K-1. The compensation for qualified plan purposes is the net of the two. If the loss is large enough it's possible for the CEO to have 0 compensation. We have several situations for 2009 that are likely to result in this same scenario. William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
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