error submitting a plan in Relius Web Client

[Dinosaur]

I am preparing a late Form 5500 filing (2007) and using Relius Web Client. This is a Defined Benefit Plan. I understand that I use a 2009 Form 5500, 2009 Schedule I. Also we prepared a 2007 Schedule B and Schedule R (both schedules as an other attachment using a .pdf file).

When we tried to file (can sign as service provider), it came up with the following errors:

"ERROR Fail when Filing Header, Form Year does not match Filing Header, Plan Year Begin, unless the Filing Header Prior Year Indicator is set to 1."

This error I do not understand. Any thoughts?

"ERROR Fail when Schedule SB is not attached and Form 5500, Line 8a (Pension benefit code) contains 1x (defined benefit), and either Part II of Form 5500, Line 9a(2) is not checked, or Line 9a(2) is checked and at least one of Lines 9a(1), 9a(3), 9a(4), are also checked, and Schedule H/I, Line 5a is not yes and Form 5500, Part I, Line A, single-employer plan or multiple-employer plan is checked."

I did not check the box at the bottom of the 2009 Form 5500 that a Schedule SB was attached since it's a 2007 Schedule B and its filed as an other attachment to the filing. Line 8a has 1A and 1G, Line 9(a)3 is checked, Schedule I, line 5a is No and Part I, Line A (single employer) is checked. Any thoughts?

I have an incident at Relius but thought I would ask the board.

Another note: these errors did not come up when I originally tried to file. I filed and then it had a submission failed. I tried again and then it came up with the errors when I tried to e-file again. When do these validation errors first come up?

[Bill Presson]

I am preparing a late Form 5500 filing (2007) and using Relius Web Client. This is a Defined Benefit Plan. I understand that I use a 2009 Form 5500, 2009 Schedule I. Also we prepared a 2007 Schedule B and Schedule R (both schedules as an other attachment using a .pdf file).

When we tried to file (can sign as service provider), it came up with the following errors:

"ERROR Fail when Filing Header, Form Year does not match Filing Header, Plan Year Begin, unless the Filing Header Prior Year Indicator is set to 1."

This error I do not understand. Any thoughts?

"ERROR Fail when Schedule SB is not attached and Form 5500, Line 8a (Pension benefit code) contains 1x (defined benefit), and either Part II of Form 5500, Line 9a(2) is not checked, or Line 9a(2) is checked and at least one of Lines 9a(1), 9a(3), 9a(4), are also checked, and Schedule H/I, Line 5a is not yes and Form 5500, Part I, Line A, single-employer plan or multiple-employer plan is checked."

I did not check the box at the bottom of the 2009 Form 5500 that a Schedule SB was attached since it's a 2007 Schedule B and its filed as an other attachment to the filing. Line 8a has 1A and 1G, Line 9(a)3 is checked, Schedule I, line 5a is No and Part I, Line A (single employer) is checked. Any thoughts?

I have an incident at Relius but thought I would ask the board.

Another note: these errors did not come up when I originally tried to file. I filed and then it had a submission failed. I tried again and then it came up with the errors when I tried to e-file again. When do these validation errors first come up?

It is my understanding when using the EFAST2 that you have to use the 2009 forms even if it is for an older plan year. So I believe you will have to use the 2009 SB to certify the 2007 plan year.

[Dinosaur]

The instructions specifically say to use the 2007 Schedule B and include as an other attachment.

[Bill Presson]

The instructions specifically say to use the 2007 Schedule B and include as an other attachment.

Interesting. My bad. Wish I had a better answer.