Lori H Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 A 15 employee floor husband/wife contractor is looking to install a plan. Most of their employees are hispanic and only work when work is available. They are not necessarily terminated. He wants to set up a plan and doubts they will participate, but is there a way they can be excluded for plan purposes and still satisfy minimum coverage requirements? They were considering a Safe Harbor 401(k).
Tom Poje Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 if these people never ever ever ever work 1000 hours, then they would never meet the 1 year eligibility a plan could require. therefore they would never be included in coverage testing.
GMK Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Most of their employees are hispanic I'm pretty sure that this is not relevant to eligibility considerations. And it doesn't matte whether or not they might defer. For example, even part timers who happen to get to 1000 hours of service are eligible.
Lori H Posted October 13, 2010 Author Posted October 13, 2010 They have at least 6 employees who worked over 1000 hours in 2009. They may have periods were they don't work but are never officially terminated ( i am not sure what counts as "officially" terminated). So if they were eligible and didn't sign up for the plan, they would still get a profit sharing. I'm thinking a New Comparability would be the best and only option for them. The document could not exclude certain employees from participating other than leased, non residents, union or temporary employees?
rcline46 Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Install a 'stacked' Safe Harbor Match 401(k). Make sure all eligible employees receive notice AND sign a zero deferral form.
Guest Sieve Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 If these people are "excluded for plan purposes", then there would be no need for a SH 401(k). But, if it is felt they will not participate, rcline's suggestion of a SH match is probably the best bet.
Lori H Posted October 13, 2010 Author Posted October 13, 2010 Install a 'stacked' Safe Harbor Match 401(k). Make sure all eligible employees receive notice AND sign a zero deferral form. By stacked, do you mean "enhanced"?
rcline46 Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 If you want to get to the $49,000 limit, you may not get there with an enhanced match. You would need two Safe Harbor match formulas, therefore 'stacked'.
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