austin3515 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 May an employee exceed the $49,000 415 limit by BOTH the 402g7 catch-up AND the 414v catch-up? Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbozek Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 May an employee exceed the $49,000 415 limit by BOTH the 402g7 catch-up AND the 414v catch-up? Yes See Pub 571 p8 under 15 year rule. mjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin3515 Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 As a matter of fact I later found in my basic plan document that the $3,000 is subject to the annual additions limitations, whereas the regular catch-up is not. Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin C Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Maybe the language you are looking for is hiding with the plan's deferral limit provisions instead of with the catch-up provision? 1.403(b)-4©(3) says that for someone eligible for the 15 yr catch-up, the 402(g) limit is increased by the amount of the catch-up. For the regular age 50 catch-up, the catch-up is not counted towards the limit. If your document doesn't allow an eligible employee to exceed $16,500 by both the 15 year and age 50 catch-ups, you may want to look into other document providers' options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin3515 Posted July 16, 2011 Author Share Posted July 16, 2011 They can defer 16,500 + 5500 + 3000, but their total additions can only be 49,000 + 5,500. Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin C Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 They can defer 16,500 + 5500 + 3000, but their total additions can only be 49,000 + 5,500. Interesting. It does look like that is how it works. Take a look at 1.403(b)-4©(5) example 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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