BG5150 Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 I have a plan that had some people defer early. I am planning on distributing those deferrals & earnings. Does the under 59 1/2 penalty tax apply? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
ETA Consulting LLC Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 I would distribute the deferrals, but forfeit the earnings. To distribute the earnings would be for a non-participant to benefit from the plan. Good Luck! CPC, QPA, QKA, TGPC, ERPA
Tom Poje Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 well according to an ASPPA presentation at the Mid Atlantic the following choices are available: (I did not attend, only have a copy of the notes. since the distribution to the employee was in italics, I assume this is something new, and will be part of the new EPCRS, whenever that will be released, but I am only guessing- but i do seem to recall the IRS saying you could distribute the deferrals) Correction methods under EPCRS: 1.Amend plan retroactively to permit employee to enter. Make the employee whole either by: 1.Forfeit deferrals and earnings to plan and make employee whole outside the plan. 2.Distribution of deferrals to ineligible employee. Distribution of Deferrals of Ineligible Employeeon GUST document Return of deferrals and earnings. [Tom says this includes earnings, despitet he fact it seems like a windfall. must be because if the plan lost $ then how would you handle?] Taxed in year returned to employee. Issue Form 1099-R with a Code 8. [Tom looked it up and thats the code for excess deferral, so I guess no 10% penalty] ADP test would need to be redone if the ineligible amount was included in it. Any associated match would be forfeited.
TPAMan Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 No 10% early withdrawal penalty on return of ineligible deferral.
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