Nassau Posted December 6, 2011 Posted December 6, 2011 Spousal consent is required when money is leaving the ABC Plan (MMP), but the plan's installment form did not have a section for spousal consent. Being new to the relationship I inquired with the client if there was a reason why there was not a spousal consent section on the plan's installment form. As a result the client told me that they do have participants provide a spousal consent wen a termination is requested which is generally when an installment would be elected. The client has asked if it was necessary to have a spousal consent provided again if a change is being made to the setup of installments which is usually why a participant would be sent/complete an installment form. I thought that we would want to get spousal consent if any kind of change is being made to an installment payment setup, but I wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts with respect to this matter.
Nassau Posted December 6, 2011 Author Posted December 6, 2011 What is an installment form? An installment form is the form of distribution that the participant has signed and sent to the Company to request a termination distribution.
Bird Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Maybe it's just me but I'm having a hard time understanding the time line of elections and consent. They're getting a consent but not getting it..when? And it seems you're using the word "form" to mean both a form of benefit and election form (i.e. piece of paper), so I'm confused, sorry. Ed Snyder
masteff Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 if a change is being made to the setup of installments I have no real experience w/ MPP so sorry if this is a stupid question: can participants in an MPP start installment payment for one dollar amount and then elect to change that dollar amount at a later point? Perhaps we need more info on the types of changes the participant is permitted to make? I'm reading the scenario as: Participant is sent retirement packet which includes both spousal consent and benefit election. Later, participant wants to change the amount of the installment payments so the plan sends a form specifically for changing installment payment amount. And the question is: does the latter form require spousal consent. Correct? Off the top of my head, reading 417(a)(2), I say: 1) it depends on what the consent says as to future changes and 2) I'd think a change in amount would not be a change in form of benefit so a new consent isn't absolutely required. Of course a new consent is always a nice "CYA". Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra
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