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I have a situation where I have 5 different locations for an employer, same industry, 1 owner owns a piece of each the others are all different, and I'm not sure if I have an issue with the above. I don't believe it's a controlled group. I was directed to someone but really didn't want to pay the hourly fee for the answer so I'm hoping someone here can help. Also, the entities are all S corps. Entities are counseling centers in different states, so different patients, staff....

Here is the breakdown:

Owner 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Location 1 45 45 10

Location 2 50 50

Location 3 30 30 30 10

Location 4 33 33 33

Location 5 60 30 10

Owner 1 wants to establish a plan for Location 1 for now. With the other locations adopting the same plan later or their own plan. Thoughts? No owners are related.

I don't think it's a controlled group, or an affilliated service, but muliple employer I was concerned with and if so, what next. I'm in the midst of setting this plan up.

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Harleybabe - I can see why they want to charge.

Controlled group - ASSUMING the owners are not related - I don't think so

Affiliated Service Group - I would jump straight to Management Function Group. Relationship and management services are totally unknown here. You would have to get details on this which is where fees come in.

Once you get the ASG situation worked out, and that is usually the tricky part, then you are on to whether you have a single employer or multiple employers.

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This is how I see your chart:

Owner 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Location 1 45 45 10

Location 2 50 50

Location 3 30 30 30 10

Location 4 33 33 33

Location 5 60 30 10

If you are only talking about owners 1, 2, 3 & 4, then you clearly have controlled groups. If there really are 10 different owners, then repost so we can see who owns what (for example--Location 1: 1 = 45, 3 = 45, & 8 = 10)

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