Lori H Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 a participant (under age 59.5) wants to have 30% withheld from their distribution. Do they just elect this on the Benefit Payment Election Form and/or does a Form W-9P need to be completed?
QDROphile Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 I don't think it can be done for an eligible rollover distribution.
K2retire Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 It's my understanding that the required 20% is the minimum and you can always request more. Given that most participants (particularly those under age 59 1/2) will owe more than 20%, it seems perfectly reasonable. ETA Consulting LLC 1
ETA Consulting LLC Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 I'm with K2retire on this one. The 20% is a minimum. Good Luck! CPC, QPA, QKA, TGPC, ERPA
ESOP Guy Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 We do it all the time. If the person puts on their form they want extra we do it. ETA Consulting LLC 1
BG5150 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I've seen 100% withholding at the participant's request. 401KLearner and ESOP Guy 2 QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Lori H Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 They don't need to fill out a special form outside the standard Benefit Payment Election Form such as a W-9P do they?
ESOP Guy Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 They don't need to fill out a special form outside the standard Benefit Payment Election Form such as a W-9P do they? Not that I know of. We have added a line for requesting extra Federal and a line for extra state taxes to our standard distribution form. For one thing I just can't ever imagine the government ever getting bent out of shape becasue someone wants to gvie them more money. As an aside I have seen 100% withholding request once also.
david rigby Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Probably just a typo above, the correct form is W-4P. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4p.pdf Extracted from page 4 of the instructions:"The 20% withholding rate is required, and you cannot choose not to have income tax withheld from eligible rollover distributions. Do not give Form W-4P to your payer unless you want an additional amount withheld." I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Lori H Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 Probably just a typo above, the correct form is W-4P. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4p.pdf Extracted from page 4 of the instructions: "The 20% withholding rate is required, and you cannot choose not to have income tax withheld from eligible rollover distributions. Do not give Form W-4P to your payer unless you want an additional amount withheld." so it IS required.
david rigby Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 20% is required for rollable distributions, but, as stated in the quote, the EE may submit a W-4P to elect "additional amount withheld". I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
BG5150 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Though, if the assets are with a big carrier, there usually is a place on the distribution form to elect more withholding, and we generally accept that as a W-4P Equivalent. We also added a similar line to our distribution forms (for participants in pooled accounts). I rarely give out any W-4Ps. WDIK 1 QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
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