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a participant (under age 59.5) wants to have 30% withheld from their distribution. Do they just elect this on the Benefit Payment Election Form and/or does a Form W-9P need to be completed?

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They don't need to fill out a special form outside the standard Benefit Payment Election Form such as a W-9P do they?

Not that I know of. We have added a line for requesting extra Federal and a line for extra state taxes to our standard distribution form. For one thing I just can't ever imagine the government ever getting bent out of shape becasue someone wants to gvie them more money.

As an aside I have seen 100% withholding request once also.

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Probably just a typo above, the correct form is W-4P.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4p.pdf

Extracted from page 4 of the instructions:
"The 20% withholding rate is required, and you cannot choose not to have income tax withheld from eligible rollover distributions. Do not give Form W-4P to your payer unless you want an additional amount withheld."

I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.

Posted

Probably just a typo above, the correct form is W-4P.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4p.pdf

Extracted from page 4 of the instructions:

"The 20% withholding rate is required, and you cannot choose not to have income tax withheld from eligible rollover distributions. Do not give Form W-4P to your payer unless you want an additional amount withheld."

so it IS required.

Posted

20% is required for rollable distributions, but, as stated in the quote, the EE may submit a W-4P to elect "additional amount withheld".

I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.

Posted

Though, if the assets are with a big carrier, there usually is a place on the distribution form to elect more withholding, and we generally accept that as a W-4P Equivalent.

We also added a similar line to our distribution forms (for participants in pooled accounts).

I rarely give out any W-4Ps.

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