artvandelay3 Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 Quick little background. I have a Dr. client who wants to have a seperate plan for HCE's and NHCE's. The reason behind this is he wants to offer an investment to the HCE's that is not avaliable to NHCE's. Is this possible? If so, could someone point me in the right directions regarding rules and regulations and how to set it up.
ETA Consulting LLC Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 Benefits, Rights & Features must be currently and effectively available on a non-discriminatory basis. Good Luck! CPC, QPA, QKA, TGPC, ERPA
david rigby Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 Will the HCE plan pass the coverage requirements on its own? If not, then it must be combined with the other plan(s). In that case, all other discrimination testing (ie, as mentioned in Post 2 above) must be done on a combined basis. ETA Consulting LLC 1 I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
artvandelay3 Posted December 10, 2013 Author Posted December 10, 2013 Both plans will be a Safe Harbor so all eligible employees will be particpants.
My 2 cents Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 Wasn't preventing just such a provision (investment, presumably desirable, available only to HCEs) one of the principal ideas behind the non-discrimination rules? Why should they be able to do it? As David Rigby pointed out, if the HCE-only plan is able to pass coverage without regard to the non-HCE coverage, then it would appear to be OK. Otherwise, you would have to aggregate the two plans to pass coverage, and the presence of a favorable provision related to benefits, rights and features in the HCE but not the non-HCE plan would bar aggregation and the arrangement would fail. Note that having a single plan and offering an investment option with a $10,000 minimum investment would probably also be a problem, based on effective availability. Always check with your actuary first!
Tom Poje Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 in other words Looking at the HCE only plan. how many NHCEs benefit? none, zippo, zilch because they are excluded from the plan. but assuming they have worked 1 year of svc they are included and not benefiting for testing.
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