erisa parrot Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 I read a couple of articles that state matching contributions are not allowed in a Roth solo(k). Is this an accurate statement? I had the understanding that a solo(k) was simply a 401(k) with a few less reporting requirements (no Form 5500 for less than 250k in assets, for example). I can't find anything in an IRS publication that supports this statement. I know that it isn't necessary to match as you could use the profit sharing contribution to contribute to maximum if you have a solo(k), but I am looking down the road in case employees are hired in the future. Thanks!
Lou S. Posted July 14, 2014 Posted July 14, 2014 I think some one is misremembering the rules back to the 1990s when matching contributions for self-employed were treated as deferrals for the 402(g) limit. As you say whether you call it a PS or Match it has little difference in a solo-K (regardless or whether it is ROTH or regular) as the employer contributions are always non-ROTH, though you could do in plan conversion to ROTH is plan allows and participant wants to pay the taxes.
Kevin C Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 It's possible the solo(k) plan document they were referring to does not allow matching contributions. A match certainly can be allowed in any 401(k), but the document has to provide for it. I've never seen any point to having a document pared down for use only with a one-person plan. I like flexible documents. We've also had a few clients that forgot to tell us they hired an employee. The current rule on match for self-employed is in 1.401(k)-1(a)(6) (ii)Treatment of matching contributions made on behalf of self-employed individuals.— Under section 402(g)(8), matching contributions made on behalf of a self-employed individual are not treated as elective contributions made pursuant to a cash or deferred election, without regard to whether such matching contributions indirectly permit individual partners to vary the amount of contributions made on their behalf.
masteff Posted July 16, 2014 Posted July 16, 2014 I keep wondering if someone either misunderstood or took out of context a sentence such as this one: "Matching contributions and forfeitures may not be allocated to a designated Roth account." which is merely saying what Lou said above, that match is never Roth and must go into a different account in the plan. http://www.irs.gov/Retirement-Plans/Designated-Roth-Accounts---Contributing-to-a-Designated-Roth-Account It's a hard subject to google but the only place I found making the incorrect statement was on about.com which is a notoriously unreliable website. Kurt Vonnegut: 'To be is to do'-Socrates 'To do is to be'-Jean-Paul Sartre 'Do be do be do'-Frank Sinatra
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