MelissaYancy Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 In this case there were losses. They were overstated for the intial refund which was processed timely. During audit, an error was found. Now we are beyond the deadline but within the correction period. Would the amount on the 5330, Schedule H, Line 1 be the amount of the late contribution refund or the entire excess contribution? Melissa Yancy, QPA "I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult." -E.B.WHite
Lou S. Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 I believe it is just the deferrals not refunded by the deadline that are subject to the excise tax.
Tom Poje Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 a few of the reg cites are: 1.401(k)-2(b)(5)(I) if plan does not correct excess contributions within 2 1/2 months....the employer is liable for a 10% excise tax on the amount of excess contributions 1.401(k)-2(b)(2)(iv)(A) is entitled Income allocable to excess contributions so the income is totally separate from the excise tax. 1.401(k)-2(b)(2)(vii)(D) partial distribution...if less than the entire amount was distributed...as a pro rate distribution In addition, if it helps, one way of remembering the rule, recall that any match related to excess contributions must be forfeited 1.401(k)-2(b)(4)(ii) and you never adjust that for gains!
MelissaYancy Posted September 11, 2014 Author Posted September 11, 2014 Thank you both. We have an attorney who beleives the tax should be on the entire amount and not just the amount not refunded by the deadline. Melissa Yancy, QPA "I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult." -E.B.WHite
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