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I'm interested in learning from BenefitsLink mavens' practical experiences.

In handling a Form 5300 application for the IRS's written determination that an individually-designed retirement plan document states provisions that, in form, state a 401(a)-qualified plan (I'm thinking about the cycle that ends this winter), does an IRS employee ever ask about operational compliance?

Peter Gulia PC

Fiduciary Guidance Counsel

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

215-732-1552

Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com

Posted

May be wrong, but I thought that, in general, operational compliance would not be considered in a determination letter filing, which focuses on the plan document.

Always check with your actuary first!

Posted

It's never happened to me (as a POA), but if they would ever ask I would respond by saying "I don't know." They have no basis for pursuing it any further.

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Thanks for the help.

"I don't know" is a good response if that statement is true. My inquirer, a nonlawyer practitioner, is evaluating whether she should accept an engagement to act as the representative on a Form 5300 application. If she were asked about the employer/administrator's operational compliance, she would not say she doesn't know (if she does know), and she fears that declining to respond to a question might indirectly suggest that a response would reveal non-compliance.

My guess was that a 401(a)-determination procedure looks only at the plan document, not whether the employer/administrator obeys it.

Anyone with a different experience?

Peter Gulia PC

Fiduciary Guidance Counsel

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

215-732-1552

Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com

Posted

Ok, in place of "I don't know," how about "I didn't anticipate this question(these questions) and what's the relevance anyway?"

Posted

Ok, in place of "I don't know," how about "I didn't anticipate this question(these questions) and what's the relevance anyway?"

If operating under a POA, how about "I will have to get back to you on that after I have discussed it with my principal."? Nobody ever said that having a POA meant that you had to go solo, or that having a POA meant that you had to answer for any or all of your principal's transgressions, real or imaginary.

Always check with your actuary first!

Posted

jpod and My 2 cents, thank you for the helpful ideas.

Peter Gulia PC

Fiduciary Guidance Counsel

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

215-732-1552

Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com

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