khn Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 Please tell me if this is reasonable. A certain (well-known ) recordkeeper has told a client that based on their history of not failing ADP/ACP testing, the testing, which they pay an extra fee for, cannot be scheduled for completion within the first 2 1/2 months of the plan year end. If they do end up needing refunds, the Plan will be responsible for the risk and responsibilities of any failure. Am I wrong for thinking this is totally unacceptable?
K2retire Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 I've heard that before -- and I agree that it is totally unacceptable. I don't remember now who it was, but apparently they prioritize their testing according to plan size. If I were the sponsor of a small plan, I would be looking for a new recordkeeper ASAP. RatherBeGolfing, MoJo and Lou S. 3
RatherBeGolfing Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 Please tell me if this is reasonable. A certain (well-known ) recordkeeper has told a client that based on their history of not failing ADP/ACP testing, the testing, which they pay an extra fee for, cannot be scheduled for completion within the first 2 1/2 months of the plan year end. If they do end up needing refunds, the Plan will be responsible for the risk and responsibilities of any failure. Am I wrong for thinking this is totally unacceptable? Totally unacceptable. Run! Bill Presson and Lou S. 2
ETA Consulting LLC Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 If I were the sponsor of a small plan, I would be looking for a new recordkeeper ASAP. I would be looking for a new recordkeeper, regardless of small or large. It it the same routine for testing a large plan and a small plan. When a large plan fails ADP, however, those corrective distributions can get pretty steep; and the 10% penalty goes up. Plan Sponsors really have to asses what they're paying for. It's too often the case where they pay these large companies to tell them what they're not going to do. But, hey, these are the types of service failures that often present chances for me to pick up a new client. Good Luck! CPC, QPA, QKA, TGPC, ERPA
Belgarath Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 An absolute disgrace. "We're going to charge you for a service that we won't perform in a timely fashion, and we're going to make you responsible for any adverse consequences that occur because we didn't timely perform the services for which we charged you in the first place..." How do these people sleep at night? Bill Presson and hr for me 2
Doghouse Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 The service agreement between the sponsor and the provider should be examined closely. Belgarath and hr for me 2
Lou S. Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 Tell them no problem as long as they will prepare the 5330 at no charge and off set any admin fees by any excise tax owed for not getting it done in the 2.5 month window.
austin3515 Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 I know what is going on here. The Plan is unprofitable and they actually hope you will leave. K2retire, khn, Bill Presson and 1 other 4 Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
Popular Post GMK Posted November 11, 2016 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2016 ... asses ... they're paying for. Could it be that the truth is in this typo? Bill Presson, ETA Consulting LLC, Doghouse and 3 others 6
ETA Consulting LLC Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 ... asses ... they're paying for.Could it be that the truth is in this typo? Assess. Lol Bill Presson 1 CPC, QPA, QKA, TGPC, ERPA
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