PFranckowiak Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Assumption: All participants except HCE's terminated employment 2/28/17. (Company Bought out - new company took employees and business, but not plan or corporation) Existing Corp will continue until 12/31 as owner finalizes everything. Owner wants to make PS contribution for the year. Owner already put in $24,000 deferral - So cannot terminate plan as of 2/28 due to 415 limits. Assuming the NHCE's compensation is $110,000 for 2 month year they worked. 5% (SH and GW) is $5,500 Owner anticipates Compensation to be around $50,000 for him. If we continue the plan until 9/30. 415 Limit would be 54,000 x 9/12=$40,500 HCE max ER contribution would be $40,500-$18,000 =$22,500 Maximum Contribution limit = .25 * (110,000 +50000) = $40,000 $5,500 +$22,500 =$28,000. If we can pass Average Benefits Test - is there anything else I am missing? I want to try to terminate the plan before 12/31 so that participants can get paid out before year end.
Lou S. Posted March 13, 2017 Posted March 13, 2017 Just thinking outside the box why can they make a 5% of pay contribution now for all the eligible employees, pay them out at 100% vested as terminated employees then terminate the plan at year end and give the owner whatever cross tested contribution passed testing. Assuming the document allows.
Mike Preston Posted March 13, 2017 Posted March 13, 2017 If you read between the lines, the OP implies that the terminated participants are precluded from being paid out in the absence of the plan being terminated. I agree that a simple change to the document and an SMM would allow them to be paid out. Then if the 5% supported the HCE's 45% of pay employer contribution ($22,500/$50,000) it all works out swimmingly.
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