scottalaniz Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Assume a NQDC participant works in a state with income taxes and retires to a tax-free state. She has two accounts within her deferred comp plan: a 10-year account, paying her $100k per year beginning in the year after retirement. The second account is a lump-sum account, paying out $50k in the year after retirement. She'll receive all the payments while residing in the no-tax state. My question...is there state income tax liability on the $50k lump sum from the source state? Instead of a lump sum, what if she had a 5-year installment of $50k per year. Would that be treated separately from the 10-year payment stream as well? Asked differently, is the 10-year rule interpreted to mean only specific accounts with at least a 10-year stream (or longer) within an employer's NQDC plan are taxed at the retirement state's income tax rate? Or, is the rule interpreted more broadly. Meaning as long as a combination of accounts within an employers' NQDC plan payout for 10 years or more, then all the payments are exempt from source state income taxation?
XTitan Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 The missing piece is that the minimum of 10 years of installments also requires substantially equal periodic payments (4 USC 114(b)(1)(I)(i)), so two interpretations: (1) just those accounts that have at least 10 years of installments escape state-of-earnings income taxation (2) since the entire distribution stream is not substantially equal, all the distributions are subject to state-of-earnings income taxation I do not think I've seen an interpretation that says if at least one account is at least 10 years, then the entire distribution escapes state-of-earnings income taxation. - There are two types of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data sets...
HCE Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 Scottalaniz - Did you ever figure this one out? I'm in a similar situation.
Peter Gulia Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 Here’s 4 U.S.C. § 114: http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:4 section:114 edition:prelim) OR (granuleid:USC-prelim-title4-section114)&f=treesort&edition=prelim&num=0&jumpTo=true Also, one might research the State’s income tax law. A State’s law might provide (or be interpreted to provide) an exclusion more generous than Federal law commands. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
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