BH1528 Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 We are in the process of terminating a PBGC covered DB Plan. There are participants who we have not been able to get in contact with and have gone through a provider to do an employee search. We have exhausted all forms of communication (mail, phone, email) outside of showing up at the addresses provided and have not heard a thing. The phone numbers are disconnected or goes to a full mailbox of someone that is not the participant. The participant's lump sum value is above the $5K automatic cash out and all annuity providers we have reached out to have said that they will can't take on such a small amount. This is holding up the termination of the plan, what possible solutions are there to this?
david rigby Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 have you considered that: 1. the participant may be deceased? 2. the participant may not be a US citizen and has returned to his/her home country? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
ishi Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 The PBGC has a missing participant's program: https://www.pbgc.gov/prac/missing-participants-program Ishi, the last of his tribe
BH1528 Posted December 5, 2018 Author Posted December 5, 2018 @david rigby The search would have returned if the participants were deceased. The participants are US citizens but possibly moved to another country? I had not thought about that or if the search would look into that. Thank you. @ishi Would we be able to use the missing participant's program? By definition, I am not sure if we can consider them missing as we do have an address and contact info: "In general, a distributee is considered missing if, when the plan closes out, the plan doesn’t know the individual’s location (e.g., if a notice from the plan is returned as undeliverable). For purposes of these instructions, we use the term “Unlocatable” to describe a distributee in this situation.P 1F 2 P An individual is also considered missing if: • The individual’s benefit was subject to a mandatory cash-out under the plan’s terms and the individual did not return the necessary paperwork providing instructions about how the payment should be made (e.g., by check or as a direct rollover to an IRA); or • The individual did not accept a lump sum payment, whether elected voluntarily or subject to mandatory cash-out (see “Unaccepted lump sum payments” below). We use the term “Unresponsive” to describe a distributee in either of the two situations noted immediately above. Note that a distributee may be both “Unlocatable” and “Unresponsive.”" It seems they would be considered Unresponsive and/or Unlocatable.
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