Guest Posted July 10, 2000 Posted July 10, 2000 Has anyone ever been involved in a situation where benefits were increased for vested deferred participants? I have a client who would like some ideas and has asked me "what do other people do?" I told him it's not very common, but I would check around. I have asked most of my local colleagues but most of them have never done it either. Has anyone done it? What type of formula did you use to arrive at the increase? Did you recognize how many years they have been terminated? I'm interested in what has been done in practice
david rigby Posted July 10, 2000 Posted July 10, 2000 I have never seen such an increase applied to VT's before commencement date. I have seen several COLAs where the plan sponsor did or did not make a distinction between those who retired and those who were VT's. When the sponsor did not make such a distinction, it was usually because the data was not good enough to positively identify these groups. Other sponsors keep careful track of these groups and have given different benefits. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Guest Don N Posted July 12, 2000 Posted July 12, 2000 I'd also be interested in knowing what other practitioners are doing ! I've heard that it's common practice to give "ad hocs" to current retirees only & post retirement "colas" to all status types - actives, vested terms, & retirees;however, I could understand why an employer might not want to give a "cola" to term vesteds; pax, I'm not sure what your reply implied-could you clarify?
Guest Brian4 Posted July 17, 2000 Posted July 17, 2000 I have seen an increase applied to vested terminations before benefit commencement date. This was in a public plan. The plan applied a permanent cost of living increase to retiree benefits, and the increase, or a lower increase, also improved the deferred benefits to vested terminated participants. Note that in the United Kingdom, deferred vested participants do receive cost of living improvements during the deferral period. This improves the portability of defined benefit plans. An international comparison ranked the United States below other countries with respect to pension portability.
Gary Posted July 24, 2000 Posted July 24, 2000 I would imagine an ad hoc increase could apply to TVs as well and be drafted much like for retirees.
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