VeryOldMan Posted August 17, 2021 Posted August 17, 2021 For 415 lump sum limitation calculations, IRS says it will accept linear interpolation as a reasonable method. For example computing the maximum lump sum at age 62.45, we can use the factor for age 62 and age 63 and linear interpolation. I am looking for other acceptable methods that might provide a higher value. Can't find anything....
C. B. Zeller Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 I don't think you're going to find anything documented, but the only thing I can think of would be to estimate q_62.45 by assuming either UDD or constant force and interpolating between q_62 and q_63. Then calculate D_62.45 and N_62.45 to determine your annuity factor. Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Mike Preston Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 I've heard that the IRS allows completed months.
VeryOldMan Posted August 18, 2021 Author Posted August 18, 2021 I'm interested in the approach of estimating Q62.45 by interpolating between the 2 integral ages. Have you seen this method used in a written form. Not sure I understand how that might produce a higher value than linear interpolation of the age 62-63 annuity values.
Mike Preston Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, VeryOldMan said: I'm interested in the approach of estimating Q62.45 by interpolating between the 2 integral ages. Have you seen this method used in a written form. Not sure I understand how that might produce a higher value than linear interpolation of the age 62-63 annuity values. I can't believe it matters all that much. Doesn't it depend on the partial age? That is, for simplicity sake, if the partial ages between 0 and 1/2 then one method will give you lower overall mortality but if the partial age is between 1/2 and 1 the other method will give you lower overall mortality. I have a spreadsheet somewhere that has a selector based on either UDD or CFM but I haven't dusted it off in years.
Calavera Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 As I recall, you would calculate the lump sum payment using plan's definitions and administrative practice for age (complete, nearest, exact, etc.) and interpolation . Then you would convert this lump sum amount to a single life annuity and compare with the 415 $ limit, which is the same between 62 and 65. So to convert the lump sum to a single life annuity, I would suggest to be consistent and use the same practice for age and interpolation.
VeryOldMan Posted August 19, 2021 Author Posted August 19, 2021 Ok thank you all. Its probably not much better that linear interpolation anyway.
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