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  1. What? Why are they contributing a 3% QNEC and still choosing to be subject to the ADP test? To answer your question though, in order to count a QNEC towards the NHCE ADP, it has to be contributed for the same plan year as the NHCE deferrals being tested. Right now it’s 2026 and you’re doing the 2025 ADP test. With the prior year method, you’re using the 2024 NHCE ADRs in the test so you could only take into account 2024 QNECs (which could have been deposited as late as 12/31/2025). Hence why it’s generally not feasible to correct a prior year ADP test using QNECs. Now in your unusual situation, where they did actually contribute a QNEC during the prior year, you still have to take nondiscrimination into account. 401(a)(4) has to pass both with and without the QNECs that were applied to the ADP test taken into account. If you are including all of the NHCE QNECs in the ADP test then 401(a)(4) will fail since you’ll have contributions going only to HCEs after backing out the QNECs used towards ADP. If you calculate just the minimum amount of QNEC needed to pass ADP and leave some over to be included in 401(a)(4), then you can try to see if it would pass using cross-testing or another method. But if it fails, you now have a failure for 2024 that you would need to back and correct somehow. In short, if you’re using prior year testing, plan on correcting via refunds.
  2. The mid-year/retroactive safe harbor non-elective is only good for the ADP safe harbor. If you need the ACP safe harbor for a discretionary match, then you will have to wait until the next plan year. Since you mentioned you have access to ERISApedia, chapter 14.12 has a great discussion on safe harbor plans. In particular there is a chart in 14.12.3.5 that I think will help you narrow it down. Remember that the notice has to be given before the beginning of the year, so if a notice is required then you can't make the change mid-year.
  3. Safe harbor match can't be added mid-year. Safe harbor non-elective can be added up through November 30 (assuming calendar year plan) of the current year at 3%, or up through December 31 of the following year (i.e. 12/31/2027) at 4%.
  4. I disagree with Marjorie Lucas (who I suspect might be an LLM, based on the responses posted above). The employee enters the plan immediately upon rehire. You can not disregard prior service merely because the plan was frozen at the time, or because there was no plan in effect at the time. Requiring him to work another 1000 hours before entering the plan would violate the maximum service requirement of IRC 410(a)/ERISA 202.
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  7. Yes, they have to. Unless the assets are less than $250k, in which case, they don't have a filing requirement at all.
  8. If the plan covers only a 100% owner and their spouse, then they should be filing a 5500-EZ, not SF.
  9. Is it? I don't see anything in the text of that item or the items above or below it that would restrict it to the YOS match formula. There is the heading of course, but as it says in the basic document, headings are for reference and convenience only, and are not part of the plan document. It seems to me more likely that the coders at FTW put this item in the wrong place. You could always select "Special schedule" in D.8.f and describe it there. Something along the lines of, "a uniform percentage of Matched Employee Contributions not in excess of X% of Compensation"
  10. Looks like it's at D.11.b in my adoption agreement. It's under the heading "Years of Service" which doesn't make much sense to me, but so be it.
  11. Whoops. Missed that part. Then I agree with Bri, it's still a deferral election, it's merely late.
  12. Not even late. For an owner with earned income, they have until their tax return is finalized to deposit their deferrals. For a sole prop that can be as late as 4/15, or even later on extension. I would have no problem saying that the establishment of an auto-$2k/month withdrawal constitues an election to defer $24k for the year. So just get the remaining money in by 4/15 and call it a day.
  13. You only need to test them all together as one big group. Under 414(b), members of a controlled group are treated as a single employer for testing purposes. So if A, B, and C are all the same employer, and C, D, and E are all the same employer, then logically all of A, B, C, D and E must be the same employer.
  14. Peter's info (as he is clear to remind us, not advice) is thorough and excellent as always. It sounds like the client is happy with the current tax situation, and ejohnke is just looking to correct the potential disqualifying defect of allowing a distribution that shouldn't have happened. Is that accurate? If the individual could have had a distributable event, but the plan didn't allow the distribution, could the plan be retroactively amended to permit it? For example, the participant is 60 years old, so amend the plan retroactively to 2025 to permit in-service distributions at age 59-1/2. Problem solved. If there really is no possible distributable event (don't forget that employer money sources can have much more liberal distribution restrictions than 401(k) deferrals), then you might still be able to get relief for the distribution (and leave the money in the Roth IRA) through VCP.
  15. Stock sale or asset sale? If asset sale: A still exists as a shell company and the owner(s) of A can sign on behalf of A. The participants can take distributions right after the sale date since they are no longer employees of A. If stock sale: B is now the sponsor of The Company A 401(k) Plan and has the authority to sign. Participants can not take a distribution until the plan termination date. Termination triggers the successor plan rule and B may not be allowed to maintain a 401(k) plan for 1 year after the distribution date. This is why, with a stock sale, it is important to terminate the seller's plan before the sale date, or be prepared to merge the plans.
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