BG5150 Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 Plan has $2MM in assets, of which $1.5MM are in non-qualifying assets (real estate and partnerships). Does the bond have to be the full $1.5MM? Or it is capped at the traditional $500,000? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
BG5150 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Posted January 11, 2022 That's what I thought. thanks. QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Jakyasar Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 I was once told by an agent it should 100% of the non-qualified assets plus 10% of the qualified assets i.e. 2 separate bonds and that is what I do.
C. B. Zeller Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, Jakyasar said: I was once told by an agent it should 100% of the non-qualified assets plus 10% of the qualified assets i.e. 2 separate bonds and that is what I do. Interesting, because that's not what the reg says. One of the examples in the reg clearly says you can use one bond to cover both the qualifying and non-qualifying assets. However it might be easier to get a second bond than to argue with a DOL agent if the plan is under audit. DOL reg 2520.104-46(b)(1)(iii)(B), relevant section highlighted. Quote Examples. Plan A, which reports on a calendar year basis, has total assets of $600,000 as of the end of the 1999 plan year. Plan A's assets, as of the end of year, include: investments in various bank, insurance company and mutual fund products of $520,000; investments in qualifying employer securities of $40,000; participant loans, meeting the requirements of ERISA section 408(b)(1), totaling $20,000; and a $20,000 investment in a real estate limited partnership. Because the only asset of the plan that does not constitute a “qualifying plan asset” is the $20,000 real estate investment and that investment represents less than 5% of the plan's total assets, no bond would be required under the proposal as a condition for the waiver for the 2000 plan year. By contrast, Plan B also has total assets of $600,000 as of the end of the 1999 plan year, of which $558,000 constitutes “qualifying plan assets” and $42,000 constitutes non-qualifying plan assets. Because 7%—more than 5%—of Plan B's assets do not constitute “qualifying plan assets,” Plan B, as a condition to electing the waiver for the 2000 plan year, must ensure that it has a fidelity bond in an amount equal to at least $42,000 covering persons handling non-qualifying plan assets. Inasmuch as compliance with section 412 requires the amount of bonds to be not less than 10% of the amount of all the plan's funds or other property handled, the bond acquired for section 412 purposes may be adequate to cover the non-qualifying plan assets without an increase (i.e., if the amount of the bond determined to be needed for the relevant persons for section 412 purposes is at least $42,000). As demonstrated by the foregoing example, where a plan has more than 5% of its assets in non-qualifying plan assets, the bond required by the proposal is for the total amount of the non-qualifying plan assets, not just the amount in excess of 5%. ugueth and Luke Bailey 2 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Jakyasar Posted January 11, 2022 Posted January 11, 2022 Well, this as it may be, the insurance company did not allow a single bond (I think it was Colonial) and had to get 2 bonds, this was a while back. I am just sharing my experience. By the way, thank you for pointing to the example. Luke Bailey 1
BG5150 Posted January 12, 2022 Author Posted January 12, 2022 Just one bond covering 100% of the non-qualifying assets OR 10% of total plan assets, whichever is greater. (And, as we now remember, there is no $500,000 cap if/when the the nonqualifying assets are more than $500k. Or, I guess, $1MM if there employer securities involved.) Side question about the $1MM bond. If a plan has $12MM in assets, but only, like, $40,000 in employer stock, do I still need a $1MM bond? Luke Bailey 1 QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
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