Jakyasar Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 Hi Need to revisit the following as I am now getting contradictory info from CPA. There are no exclusions per plan document. From W-2 Box 1 $240,000 Box 6 $225,000 On the earnings summary Gross Pay $225,000 - matches box 5 less deferral $ 20,500 plus s-corp 2% $ 42,000 - medical premium less catch up $ 6,500 Reported W-2 $240,000v - matches box 1 What to use as salary for pension purposes? Thank you QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS - I used to be indecisive about pensions but now I am not so sure
justanotheradmin Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 We don't have enough information to know. what is the document's definition of compensation W-2 reportable compensation? 415 comp? 3401(a)? What are the deferrals? pre-tax? Roth? Are there additional non-reported non-taxable amounts? Like HSA or section 125 dollars? Which generally aren't on the W-2 at all? And what are you going to use the compensation figure for, once you figure it out? A defined benefit accrual? safe harbor contribution? non-discrimination testing? different compensation definitions are often allowable depending on what it is being used for. Lou S. 1 I'm a stranger on the internet. Nothing I write is tax or legal advice. I'd like a witty saying here, but I don't have any. When in doubt, what does the plan document say?
Jakyasar Posted January 10, 2023 Author Posted January 10, 2023 As I stated, nothing is excluded. Definition is W-2. Deferrals are pre-tax, that is why listed as "less" No 125 listed. To be used for cash balance, SH, PS and testing. QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS - I used to be indecisive about pensions but now I am not so sure
Bri Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Sounds like 267 is the right answer. Either use Box 1 plus the salary deferrals or use Box 5 plus the S-corp. medical Luke Bailey 1
CuseFan Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Agree, it appears the question is essentially do you include the taxable S-corp medical insurance premium add-in, and absent any specific exclusion I think you do. Luke Bailey 1 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Jakyasar Posted January 10, 2023 Author Posted January 10, 2023 The CPA just said not to include, go figure. QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS - I used to be indecisive about pensions but now I am not so sure
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