Elizabeth Matthews Posted January 24, 2025 Posted January 24, 2025 If there are plan assets reverted to the employer in 13a on the Form 5500-SF, where should those be in the financial information (7-8)? I am thinking they would go in 8d (Benefits Paid) but I could not find any guidance for this.
CuseFan Posted January 24, 2025 Posted January 24, 2025 I would show it as a transfer from the plan on line 8j. Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Elizabeth Matthews Posted January 24, 2025 Author Posted January 24, 2025 The instructions for 8j say A transfer of assets or liabilities occurs when there is a reduction of assets or liabilities with respect to one plan and the receipt of these assets or the assumption of these liabilities by another plan. Since it is not going to another plan, I don't think it goes there. I found another thread with this question from years ago and they were never able to find the answer, even from the DOL.
C. B. Zeller Posted January 24, 2025 Posted January 24, 2025 I've also seen it done as a negative amount on the employer contribution line. Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
John314 Posted January 28, 2025 Posted January 28, 2025 I second the negative employer contribution approach.
Jeff Hartmann Posted January 29, 2025 Posted January 29, 2025 FWIW, note that Reversion amounts are reported on Line 13a. In my opinion, the "lesser of 2 evils" is to report the reversion on line 8j as a Transfer (from) the Plan, notwithstanding lack of saying that in the Instructions. Line 8a "Contributions RECEIVED or Receivable" seems (to me) to be clearly intended for contributions added to the Plan, not reversions. .... Jeff
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