ESOP Guy Posted Wednesday at 10:09 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:09 PM As the title says I just came across a plan document that defines a Break in Service as any year the participant works <1,000 hours. I don't recall ever seeing the number of hours being more than the <501. I have tried looking up the code and regulations and I see nothing that allows it that high number of hours. Thanks in advance.
Peter Gulia Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Is the plan a governmental plan? A church plan that has not elected to be ERISA-governed? A plan that covers no employee? Or an ERISA-governed plan? Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
ESOP Guy Posted 18 hours ago Author Posted 18 hours ago It is an ESOP so it is an ERISA governed plan.
Peter Gulia Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago ERISA § 404(a)(1)(D)’s “insofar” phrase calls a plan’s administrator (and other fiduciaries) to ignore a document provision that’s inconsistent with an ERISA title I command. Instead, one administers the plan as though it provides what ERISA’s title I commands. ERISA § 202 begins with “No pension plan may require . . . .” ERISA § 203 begins with “Each pension plan shall provide . . . .” For a plan governed by part 2 of subtitle B of title I of ERISA, for minimum participation or nonforfeitability an administrator would determine a break in service as no more restrictive than ERISA § 203(b)(3)(A) permits—that is, a year “during which the participant has not completed more than 500 hours of service.” This is not advice to anyone. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
david rigby Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Interesting Q. After reviewing the definition of BIS in IRC 411(a)(6)(A), and then reading how that definition is applied in subsequent subparagraphs, my suggested answer is NO. I wonder if the questioner has inquired about this unusual provision, specifically asking whoever wrote the document originally if that person/law firm can defend or explain. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
ESOP Guy Posted 13 hours ago Author Posted 13 hours ago We will ask the client to ask the attorney about that provision. Thanks for your help!
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