Jakyasar Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 Hi A calendar plan has 2 owner HCEs, one non-owner HCE and one non-HCE as participants. All but one owner HCE terminated in June 2021. Doing some testing for 2021 and if I can switch to top-paid group, the testing will be ok. The question is, can the plan be amended now to make the non-owner HCE a non-HCE? Never saw this situation before. Thank you
BG5150 Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 You can do it in-year, I beleive QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
CuseFan Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 agreed Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Gilmore Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 You can amend the 2021 plan year to elect the top paid group for the 2021 plan year as long as the 2021 plan year has not ended, but the determination still uses the 2020 look back compensation for the determination for 2021. That's probably what you were intending but the topic heading is a little confusing.
Jakyasar Posted November 18, 2021 Author Posted November 18, 2021 Thanks all I was concerned if it can be changed so that a terminated participant can switch from being a HCE to NHCE. I will try to clarify a bit more and add a bit more information which I forgot to add. This is a question for DB/PS combo. DB plan paid the employee out in August 2021but PS is still pending and will not happen till 2022. Salaries not yet determined for 2021 for the active owner. Per lookback year to 2020, was employee was HCE. Now would like to amend to top-paid group prior to 12/31/2021 and make the terminated participant a NHCE. As a reminder, DB benefit was paid out and PS is still pending. In order to change, must amend both plans for cross testing. I hope I was able to clarify and not complicate further.
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