BG5150 Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 I have the formula to calculate a 'regular' EBAR. That is, not including permitted disparity. Where can I find the formula for the permitted disparity? Does anyone have excel formulae to calculate either the EBAR given the contribution, or the contribution given the EBAR? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
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Bri Posted December 13, 2021 Posted December 13, 2021 If the person's below the covered comp level, it's the lesser of 1) original EBAR times 2, or 2) original EBAR plus the disparity factor from a big table based on the plan's NRA and the individual's SSRA. If the person's above the covered comp level, it's the lesser of 1) annual accrual / (comp - (50% times covered comp)), or 2) (annual accrual + (disparity factor x covered comp))/ compensation Luke Bailey and Bill Presson 2
Tom Poje Posted December 15, 2021 Posted December 15, 2021 Merry Christmas all BG5150 (if you can still put up with my comments!) The precaution or reminder is you are nor permitted to impute disparity on deferrals, matching contributions or safe harbor contributions. Sorry most of my pension knowledge went out the window when I went through the door. I did provide examples in the Coverage and Nondiscrimination answer Book, but I left that as well....
BG5150 Posted December 15, 2021 Author Posted December 15, 2021 Not asking for you guys to do my work, but is there something in the EOB that outlines the calculation with the permitted disparity? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Bri Posted December 16, 2021 Posted December 16, 2021 I think Chapter 10 is dedicated to permitted disparity (it's got to be the shortest chapter along with vesting and 415), and a quick peek does have some illustrations to the calcs.
Mike Preston Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 1:26 PM, BG5150 said: Not asking for you guys to do my work, but is there something in the EOB that outlines the calculation with the permitted disparity? Isn't bri's description what you want? All you need is to program the permitted disparity factor and covered comp.
Draper55 Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 I believe you use average annual comp instead of comp in the formulas if you are testing that way.
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