SM Posted February 16, 2022 Posted February 16, 2022 I have a self employed client that has DB/DC combo plan. They are maxing out their deferral and contributing 6% to the profit sharing account and putting 200k into the DB plan. He asked if they can also contribute after-tax money with the intent of a Roth conversion. For example; Client is 58 Client's earned income is $800,000 He contributes $27,000 in 401(k) deferrals The company makes a 6% Profit Sharing on $305,000 or $18,300 The company makes a defined benefit contribution of $200,000 Can he contribute an additional after-tax contribution to the 401(k) plan of $22,200 ($67,500 - ($27,000+$18,300))? .
Bird Posted February 16, 2022 Posted February 16, 2022 Yup. We should probably do it more. David Schultz and ugueth 2 Ed Snyder
CuseFan Posted February 16, 2022 Posted February 16, 2022 Agreed, and w/o delay because this is on the legislative radar, and even though no restrictions were enacted currently that thoughts of such are not likely going away. Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
C. B. Zeller Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 Maybe it was too obvious to state, but: The plan has to allow for after-tax contributions The plan has to allow for in-plan Roth conversions If there are any NHCEs, the ACP test will be required (and probably fail) ugueth 1 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
CuseFan Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 29 minutes ago, C. B. Zeller said: Maybe it was too obvious to state, Never hurts to confirm rather than assume. Although cleaner, in-plan Roth conversions aren't absolutely necessary as after-tax withdrawals can be made and rolled into Roth. John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA and ugueth 2 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
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