metsfan026 Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 I again apologize for all the questions, as I'm trying to learn and help out in my office. When we have a DC/DB combo plan, the 7.5% Gateway (I know it can be less than this, but generally is viewed as the "Safe Harbor" comes exclusively into the DC Plan correct? I just wanted to make sure. Thanks!
C. B. Zeller Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 No. To satisfy the combo gateway, the aggregate normal allocation rate (ANAR) has to be at least 7.5% for all NHCEs if the ANAR for any HCE is greater than 35%. Aggregate means the sum of the DB and DC allocation rates. You convert the annual accrual in the DB plan into an allocation using the interest rate and mortality selected for testing. For NHCEs getting an accrual in the DB plan, you can also substitute the average DB allocation rate for all NHCEs instead of using each individual's allocation rate; this avoids having different PS allocation rates needed for every employee to satisfy the gateway. Luke Bailey and ugueth 2 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Lou S. Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 A gate-way of 7.5% of 415(c)(3) compensation to all NHCEs is not a "safe-harbor" but I think I'd have a hard time coming up with an example where a 7.5% allocation didn't pass the gate-way part of the general test. Luke Bailey 1
Popular Post CuseFan Posted May 9, 2022 Popular Post Posted May 9, 2022 7.5% is the maximum gateway required in any combo situation - the gateway can never be higher but a greater contribution may be required to satisfy the nondiscrimination testing. Also be careful if your DB is a CB - the normal allocation rate is NOT the contribution crediting rate, so 3% SHNE + 2% PS + 2.5% CB does NOT equal 7.5% gateway. acm_acm, Lou S., ugueth and 2 others 5 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
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