Santo Gold Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 We have a plan that missed providing deferral opportunities for quite a few employees over the years. They are going to go back and make good on calculating and depositing what is required for these individuals. However, several individuals have left the company years ago and they may not be able to locate them on their own. Any recommendations on a public or private services that can be used to search for lost participants? Thank you
Peter Gulia Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 Some retirement plans’ fiduciaries prefer to integrate searches with the service provider one selects for default rollovers to Individual Retirement Accounts. If the plan lacks such a service provider, consider looking first to service providers that advertise with BenefitsLink. Luke Bailey 1 Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
EPCRSGuru Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 PBI has worked well for us. They can almost always tell you the participant's current address and they even have a "relative search" function that is helpful if the person is deceased. Luke Bailey 1
ESOP Guy Posted November 28, 2022 Posted November 28, 2022 On 11/23/2022 at 3:38 PM, EPCRSGuru said: PBI has worked well for us. They can almost always tell you the participant's current address and they even have a "relative search" function that is helpful if the person is deceased. Another vote for PBI.
Santo Gold Posted November 29, 2022 Author Posted November 29, 2022 Thank you; I will look into PBI. A related question: If the plan sponsor does not have an address for a former participant and if PBI cannot assist, can the plan sponsor send the balance directly to the state as unclaimed property or in this type of situation, does it still have to first go to a plan account before passing this on to the state?
Bri Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 Wasn't that option officially kiboshed a few years ago, with a default IRA the alternative?
ESOP Guy Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 Most plan documents have a provision saying what to do with lost participant accounts.
Santo Gold Posted November 30, 2022 Author Posted November 30, 2022 The problem that the plan sponsor has pertains to the confidentiality of providing individual SS#s to the mutual fund company/recordkeeper without the consent of the individual, in order to set up a default account for them. That they could run into legal problems by doing this.
#toomanyrules Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Depends on what the Plan Document states, but another option is forfeiting the account balance. However, if the lost participant (or their rightful beneficiary) ever resurfaces, the Plan Sponsor must restore the account balance (without earnings). Our document (ftwilliam.com) permits forfeiture of missing participant accounts after reasonable efforts to contact the Participant have failed.
Santo Gold Posted December 2, 2022 Author Posted December 2, 2022 That is interesting, but do those amounts stay in forfeiture or once in forfeiture, they can be used to offset future contributions? Also, if the plan terminates, can those amounts be used to offset employer contributions or pay expenses? Thank you
ESOP Guy Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Santo Gold said: That is interesting, but do those amounts stay in forfeiture or once in forfeiture, they can be used to offset future contributions? Also, if the plan terminates, can those amounts be used to offset employer contributions or pay expenses? Thank you The plan document will tell you how the forfeitures will be used.
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