Bird Posted December 9, 2022 Posted December 9, 2022 I have some general knowledge on this - I know property can't be contributed to a DB plan - but can't seem to figure out where to research more deeply. A sole proprietor is asking if he can contribute CDs by transferring them. I think the answer is no but need to be pointed in the right direction. There are certainly issues having to do with potential gains and losses at the point of transfer, but might CDs be considered "cash"? Ed Snyder
Belgarath Posted December 9, 2022 Posted December 9, 2022 Are you talking about a PENSION plan, or a purely discretionary Profit Sharing Plan? At any rate, I think you want DOL regulation 2509.94-3, (c). P.s. - the (c) is if it as a PS plan. If you are actually talking about a DB plan, then it would be paragraph (b). But as to whether a CD could be considered "cash" - I'd opine, for what little it is worth, that it's verboten. I lean towards conservatism on such issues. Ultimately an ERISA counsel question as far as I'm concerned. Bill Presson and Luke Bailey 2
Bird Posted December 9, 2022 Author Posted December 9, 2022 It's a DB pension and thanks, that's what I was looking for. Ed Snyder
CuseFan Posted December 9, 2022 Posted December 9, 2022 No for DBPs and only cash is cash. Luke Bailey 1 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
truphao Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 I am not sure I agree. The key point is to avoid the prohibitive transaction (real estate, employer securities, arm-length, etc.). Contributing “marketable securities” feels ok to me and it boils down to proper determination of the market value for the deposit. Contributing CD feels ok.
Peter Gulia Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 Commissioner v. Keystone Consol. Industries, Inc., 508 U.S. 152, 159-162, 16 Empl. Benefits Cas. (BL) 2121 (May 24, 1993) (The Court construed ERISA title II’s parallel text, Internal Revenue Code § 4975(f)(3), as extending, but not limiting, the reach of § 4975(c)(1)(A) [ERISA § 406(a)(1)(A)] to include as such a prohibited sale or exchange a contribution of encumbered property, even if that contribution is not used to meet a funding obligation. The Court held a contribution of property other than money—even assuming the property was unencumbered, and the contribution was valued at the property’s fair market value—was a prohibited transaction.) The Labor department’s Pension and Welfare Benefits Administration further interpreted this in Interpretive bulletin [94-3] relating to in-kind contributions to employee benefit plans (Dec. 21, 1994), 59 Fed. Reg. 66736 (Dec. 28, 1994), reprinted in 29 C.F.R. § 2509.94-3, https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-29/subtitle-B/chapter-XXV/subchapter-A/part-2509/section-2509.94-3. fmsinc, CuseFan and Luke Bailey 3 Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Calavera Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 I think you will find these useful: Luke Bailey 1
Peter Gulia Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 Also, the written terms of the certificate of deposit might make the CD nontransferable and nonassignable. Luke Bailey 1 Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
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