Jakyasar Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 Hi Need to revisit the following as I am now getting contradictory info from CPA. There are no exclusions per plan document. From W-2 Box 1 $240,000 Box 6 $225,000 On the earnings summary Gross Pay $225,000 - matches box 5 less deferral $ 20,500 plus s-corp 2% $ 42,000 - medical premium less catch up $ 6,500 Reported W-2 $240,000v - matches box 1 What to use as salary for pension purposes? Thank you
justanotheradmin Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 We don't have enough information to know. what is the document's definition of compensation W-2 reportable compensation? 415 comp? 3401(a)? What are the deferrals? pre-tax? Roth? Are there additional non-reported non-taxable amounts? Like HSA or section 125 dollars? Which generally aren't on the W-2 at all? And what are you going to use the compensation figure for, once you figure it out? A defined benefit accrual? safe harbor contribution? non-discrimination testing? different compensation definitions are often allowable depending on what it is being used for. Lou S. 1 I'm a stranger on the internet. Nothing I write is tax or legal advice. I'd like a witty saying here, but I don't have any. When in doubt, what does the plan document say?
Jakyasar Posted January 10, 2023 Author Posted January 10, 2023 As I stated, nothing is excluded. Definition is W-2. Deferrals are pre-tax, that is why listed as "less" No 125 listed. To be used for cash balance, SH, PS and testing.
Bri Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Sounds like 267 is the right answer. Either use Box 1 plus the salary deferrals or use Box 5 plus the S-corp. medical Luke Bailey 1
CuseFan Posted January 10, 2023 Posted January 10, 2023 Agree, it appears the question is essentially do you include the taxable S-corp medical insurance premium add-in, and absent any specific exclusion I think you do. Luke Bailey 1 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Jakyasar Posted January 10, 2023 Author Posted January 10, 2023 The CPA just said not to include, go figure.
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