CKocher Posted September 10, 2023 Posted September 10, 2023 A one participant plan covering owner and the spouse. Should 5500 SF be filed after divorce, if the none owner spouse stays as participants?
RatherBeGolfing Posted September 10, 2023 Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, CKocher said: A one participant plan covering owner and the spouse. Should 5500 SF be filed after divorce, if the none owner spouse stays as participants? Yep.
Peter Gulia Posted September 10, 2023 Posted September 10, 2023 About whether and when a plan might be no longer a one-participant plan as Form 5500 instructions use that term, an employer/administrator might consider not only when a marriage ended but also whether a former spouse who had been a community-property or equitable owner during the marriage became a title-holding partner. For example, if a divorce’s settlement agreement provides a former spouse an interest in a partnership or an interest in a limited-liability company treated as a partnership, that interest could make the former spouse a partner. See 29 C.F.R. § 2510.3-3(c)(2) https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-29/part-2510/section-2510.3-3#p-2510.3-3(c)(2). BenefitsLink mavens, if a former spouse gets no partnership interest, how would you advise a plan’s administrator to report this situation: The divorce decree is made after the end of the to-be-reported-on plan year but became legally effective months before the plan’s administrator completes its Form 5500 report on that plan year. Would you: Report as a one-participant plan (because those were the facts on the last day of the plan year)? Report as an ERISA-governed plan (because the Form 5500 instructions defining a one-participant plan speak in present tense—“covers”—and when the administrator makes its report the plan covers a participant who is neither a partner nor a partner’s spouse)? Luke Bailey 1 Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
CKocher Posted September 10, 2023 Author Posted September 10, 2023 Thanks, Peter. So, as expected, legal status during the plan year dictates.
RatherBeGolfing Posted September 10, 2023 Posted September 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Peter Gulia said: For example, if a divorce’s settlement agreement provides a former spouse an interest in a partnership or an interest in a limited-liability company treated as a partnership, that interest could make the former spouse a partner. See 29 C.F.R. § 2510.3-3(c)(2) https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-29/part-2510/section-2510.3-3#p-2510.3-3(c)(2). If its a partnership or taxed as a partnership and the the former spouse is awarded an interest, I agree, it could make the former spouse a partner. If its a C-Corp, you have to file the 5500 or 5500-SF. If its an S-Corp, you would still be required to file a 5500-EZ if the interest makes both former spouses 2% S-Corp shareholders... Peter Gulia and Luke Bailey 1 1
Peter Gulia Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 CKocher, I don't here express a view about whether an employer/administrator selects between Form 5500-EZ and Form 5500-SF based on facts during the plan year, as of the end of the plan year, or when the administrator files its report. Several interpretations are plausible, and I ask what our BenefitsLink neighbors think. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
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