Nic Pospiech Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 My company is being asked to take over an HRA (section 105) plan. The plan has never filed a form 5500. I am assuming they should be. Secondly, if there are over 120 participants - would they need an audit? I again am assuming yes. I would be thankful for any assistance on this. Thanks!
Bug on my window Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 An HRA provides medical care, so as far as I understand, yes they would be reportable under ERISA. Are they trust funded (VEBA)? Luke Bailey 1 The above is my opinion only, not anyone else's. I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV.
Nic Pospiech Posted December 20, 2023 Author Posted December 20, 2023 I wish I knew about the VEBA - the company that set it up doesn't exist anymore. So I don't know exactly what they did. The company that sponsors the HRA funds each participant as they go.
Luke Bailey Posted December 26, 2023 Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/20/2023 at 10:57 AM, Nic Pospiech said: I wish I knew about the VEBA - the company that set it up doesn't exist anymore. So I don't know exactly what they did. The company that sponsors the HRA funds each participant as they go. A VEBA is an ERISA trust (assuming this is not a governmental employer) that would contain funds and have an exemption letter. A pay as you go plan funded on an as-need basis from employer general assets would not indicate a VEBA. Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
Bug on my window Posted December 26, 2023 Posted December 26, 2023 Also if there's no trust-funded assets then there's no requirement under the 5500 instructions to audit the plan. The above is my opinion only, not anyone else's. I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV.
Nic Pospiech Posted June 5, 2024 Author Posted June 5, 2024 So, I finally have some more details...I think. The plan in question does the following: Makes deposits of a certain amount per employee per payroll (Employer Money) Employees can Invest the funds and withdraw for Medical Expenses. If the Employer is a Library - do they need to file a 5500? What if it was a regular employer? I think the plan was originally set up as a VEBA HRA upon inception - but with the company that established this...I really can't be sure. any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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