thepensionmaven Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Client sponsors a standalone profit-sharing plan, family only; six individual accounts with Vanguard. Spouse thinks she know all, saw something online that allows a rollover to Roth IRA, gets husband, over 59-1/2, and plan allows for "in service” to rollover all his Vanguard accounts to individual Roth IRAs, without paying any taxes. To my knowledge you can’t rollover unless taxes paid, but of course, could be wrong.
CuseFan Posted April 17 Posted April 17 PSP can have in-service. A rollover to a Roth IRA is taxable but there is no 20% tax withholding because the distribution is rolled over. The taxable nature of the distribution should be evidenced by the 1099R that is issued for the distribution. Lou S., blguest, R Griffith and 1 other 4 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Popular Post C. B. Zeller Posted April 17 Popular Post Posted April 17 The good ol' IRS Rollover Chart explains it clearly: Roll from: Qualified Plan (pre-tax) Roll to: Roth IRA Allowed: Yes (with a footnote) Footnote says: Must include in income. Lou S., ugueth, Bill Presson and 2 others 5 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Lou S. Posted April 17 Posted April 17 If it was done in 2025 you'll have a 1099-R at year end. If you are reconciling 2024 and they are just telling you about this now, they need late 2024, 1099-Rs and possible amended tax returns if they already filed. Gotta love clients that rely of Google for their plan advice instead of making a phone call to the consultant who probably knows the correct answer, even if it's not the one they want to hear. Liz Hallam, Bill Presson and David D 3
Lou S. Posted April 17 Posted April 17 And if they want to reverse it because they found out it is a taxable conversion, they are out of luck because you are no longer allowed to unwind them. They are now irrevocable. Bill Presson, Paul I and blguest 3
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