Belgarath Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Suppose a calendar year plan terminates 7/7/2025. A question has arisen as to the proper 415(c) reduced limit. According to treasury regulation 1.415(j)-1(d)(3) (emphasis is mine) fractional parts of a month are included. So the proper fraction is 7/12, not 7.226/12, correct? (d) Change of limitation year - (1) In general. Once established, the limitation year may be changed only by amending the plan. Any change in the limitation year must be a change to a 12-month period commencing with any day within the current limitation year. For purposes of this section, the limitations of section 415 are to be applied in the normal manner to the new limitation year. (2) Application to short limitation period. Where there is a change of limitation year, the limitations of section 415 are to be separately applied to a limitation period which begins with the first day of the current limitation year and which ends on the day before the first day of the first limitation year for which the change is effective. In the case of a defined contribution plan, the dollar limitation with respect to this limitation period is determined by multiplying the applicable dollar limitation for the calendar year in which the limitation period ends by a fraction, the numerator of which is the number of months (including any fractional parts of a month) in the limitation period, and the denominator of which is 12. In the case of a defined benefit plan, no adjustment is made to the section 415(b) limitations to reflect a short limitation period. (3) Deemed change of limitation year. If a defined contribution plan is terminated effective as of a date other than the last day of the plan's limitation year, the plan is treated for purposes of this section as if the plan was amended to change its limitation year. Thus, the rules of this paragraph (d) apply to the terminating plan's final limitation year.
Peter Gulia Posted October 23 Posted October 23 If the turn date is July 7, 2025 (and the relevant plan-accounting and limitation years have been the calendar year), might the fraction be six-twelfths, or perhaps a little more? Before getting into how to treat the 6 days/31 days [0.193548387] or 7 days/31 days [0.225806451] of July, one might consider how the plan’s administration counts compensation. For example, if the plan’s administrator has, for § 401(a)(17), § 401(k), § 402(g), § 415(c), and other provisions counted compensation by looking to compensation paid, rather than accrued, one might consider the pay periods and pay dates. See, for example, 26 C.F.R. § 1.415(c)-2(e)(1)(i) https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-26/part-1/section-1.415(c)-2#p-1.415(c)-2(e)(1)(i). For example, if the employer has used a 24 pay cycle with two pay dates in each month—on the 15th and the last day of the month, there might be no July pay to count in the compensation measured for a § 415(c) limit. If so, might six months/12 months be a sensible fit? Or, if there was an early July pay date before the plan’s discontinuance, one might form a reasoned fraction that catches the general sense of § 1.415(j)-1(d)(3). This is not advice to anyone. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Belgarath Posted October 23 Author Posted October 23 First, pardon my typo on the fraction - I meant to say 6/12 or 6.226/12. When counting months on my fingers, I think I counted my extra thumbs twice...And thank you for the valid points you raised! In this particular case, all compensation ceased in April of 2025. So the 401(a)(17) limit wouldn't have to consider paid vs. accrued for the 1 week in July, right? But upon further reflection, I'm thinking that for a reasonable and consistent approach, perhaps it would actually be more correct to just use 7/12 for both 401(a)(17) and 415? It seems like there is some room for interpretation here? This one is messy for many reasons, not least because unbeknownst to us, the owner (but not employees) took a full distribution of his/her account, which included deferrals, match, and safe harbor, which they contributed for 2025 based on unreduced compensation which resulted in an excess allocation and 415 violation. Sheesh...
CuseFan Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Google AI overview provides this: Calculation for a short limitation year The formula for the prorated dollar limit is: Annual dollar limit times fraction of months in short limitation year/12. Number of months: Any fractional part of a month is counted as a full month for this calculation. But the IRS website provides this specific example, so not sure where AI got its purported intelligence on this. Maybe the AI machines interpreted "... and any fractional months" as meaning they count as a whole month, and maybe (hopefully) these machines aren't quite ready to take over the world. Example 2 - Termination Plan B is a profit-sharing plan with a calendar limitation year. The plan is terminated effective September 15, 2018. The plan termination is treated as if an amendment has been adopted to change the limitation year to a year beginning September 16, 2018. A short limitation year is created from January 1 to September 15, 2018 (8.5 months). Because the plan terminated in 2018, the prorated short year limitation is calculated based on the 2018 limit of $55,000 under IRC Section 415(c). The prorated short year IRC Section 415(c) limit is: $55,000 x (8.5/12) = $38,958. Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Belgarath Posted October 24 Author Posted October 24 Thanks Cuse. Interesting, because upon further digging, I found an unofficial opinion from a big name that opined that the regulation permits counting the fractional month as a whole month, for 415 purposes. This is one of those issues where I have a hard time getting worked up over it...but maybe I should.
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