ombskid Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM Former employee returned standard distribution election form (CCH): Rollover to "IRA" Name of IRA: "xxx xxxx Corp" We have always instructed trustee to make checks payable to : "xxx Corp IRA FBO former participant" Any thoughts on if writing the check to just a Corp. is ok? Does it leave the plan with any liability as to the tax exempt status of the distribution?
Peter Gulia Posted Tuesday at 05:17 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:17 PM An Individual Retirement Account’s trustee or custodian is a bank, trust company, or Treasury-approved nonbank custodian, typically a securities broker-dealer. An Individual Retirement Annuity’s insurer must be an insurance company. If neither the check nor any accompanying instructions names the individual, won’t the payee financial-services business decline to accept the payment? Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
ombskid Posted Tuesday at 05:28 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 05:28 PM It appears there is an intermediary of some sort who would get the funds and then - we don't actually know. Does the intermediary get a fee, then send the balance to a bank or trust company? Is the tax deferred status affected? That's the kind of question we are having before telling the trustee to make the distribution.
david rigby Posted Tuesday at 06:07 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:07 PM Wow! Sounds like a scheme to skim off a fee. Why would the PA want to assist that? Never look for trouble. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Peter Gulia Posted Tuesday at 07:33 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:33 PM If making a payment payable to a payee other than the retirement plan’s participant, beneficiary, or alternate payee (presumably because the distributee requested a direct rollover), the plan’s administrator, trustee, custodian, and payer (among them) have some responsibility to check that the payee not only is the one the distributee instructed but also is a banking, insurance, or securities institution Internal Revenue Code § 408 recognizes as an IRA custodian. Else, the plan might not get a satisfaction or discharge of the plan’s obligation to pay the plan’s benefit. This is not advice to anyone. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
CuseFan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I would instruct the payer to make the check payable to Corp IRA FBO Participant, not over think and be done with it. Joe Participant is not going to be cognizant of all those nuances. Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Peter Gulia Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago Yup. I was imagining ombskid might want some explanation about why it would not make sense to depart from what ombskid describes as the customary way, including identifying a beneficial owner. And, seeing the follow-up about an "intermediary", might want an explanation that it could be improper to pay a "corp." other than the licensed bank or trust company that would serve as an IRA's trustee or custodian. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
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