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First time thinking about helping someone who has been delinquent for 3 years and wanted to check what others think and needs to be done, never had to deal with it before for 3 years. This is outside my comfort zone but may make an exception due to relationship, depending on the data I will getting.

CB plan effective 2022

One lifer

Is delinquent for the following (has initial document, not sure if cycle 3 is done):

1. 5500EZ filings for 3 years - easy to fix assuming no letters received from IRS.

2. Schedule SB certifications for 3 years as no valuation has been done

3. AFTAPs for 2023 and on - first 5 years rule may help here

Has been depositing same amount each year and taking deductions.

Any suggestions/comments on what to do on to correct all this and bring the plan into full compliance?

QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS - I used to be indecisive about pensions but now I am not so sure

Posted

Hi Bill

Thank you for your sound advice. It is not a la carte work, it would be a full buffet, I would be taking from the beginning and fix everything, each step of the way.

What I am trying to understand is, what and if VCP filing needs to be involved and that is where I get an attorney involved.

I am trying to understand if I can make all these corrections under EPCRS or SCP.

QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS - I used to be indecisive about pensions but now I am not so sure

Posted

You might need a significant portion of your fee paid up front.

I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.

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I suggest you ask an ERISA lawyer those types of legal questions.    

The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.

Posted

That I agree but mine was a practical approach question. I have every intention getting an ERISA attorney involved, if I take the case.

I just want to find out what other DB/CB gurus or actuaries do in these situations.

QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS - I used to be indecisive about pensions but now I am not so sure

Posted

Would attorney involvement not be needed if 1) it's determined that the plan doc is up to date, 2) the vals are created and it's found that all the contributions were adequate and deposited in a timely manner, and 3) the IRS' late filer program is used?   Yes, some big ifs, especially #1. 

 

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