Kac1214 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Do control group rules affect successor plan rules? I have a person who owned two businesses, only one with employees. This Company with employees has been sold and all employees hired by the new company. The business owner/sales person is going to a 1099 consultant to the business. Can they establish a 401k plan under the other business they owned (or a new one they create)? Or should they just establish a SEP which I know is not a successor plan. Thanks
Luke Bailey Posted April 6, 2018 Posted April 6, 2018 You mean they never had a plan and now want to establish one for the consultancy? Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
Kac1214 Posted April 9, 2018 Author Posted April 9, 2018 They had a plan for the company with employees and terminated it as a result of the sale. Now, would like to sponsor a Solo K (or DB) for the consultancy. Thanks
Luke Bailey Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 What is the "successor plan" issue, that they want two 415 limits in a single year? Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
Kac1214 Posted April 9, 2018 Author Posted April 9, 2018 I don't want a new plan to disallow the distributions from the prior plan. All those assets have been distributed due to plan termination.
Luke Bailey Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 OK. I assume that the owner is 2% or > of the population of old plan. Under 1.401(k)-1(d)(4)(I), CG is determined at date of sale, and the "other business" may have been in a CG. Arguably, a new business that did not exist on the date of sale would not be in the CG, but this gets really complicated and substance over form issues may intrude. Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
Kac1214 Posted April 10, 2018 Author Posted April 10, 2018 Thank you for comments, I do appreciate them and they dovetail with my research as well. I think the SEP for 2018 is the proper solution.
Luke Bailey Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 UR welcome, Kac1214. Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
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