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Profit sharing only plan (cross test), sole prop with 3 participants all receiving contribution of $11,000k (their total comp is $220,000). Owner's Schedule C line 31 is $265,000 before employee contribution. I come up with 1/2 se tax $11,287, so net comp of $242,712 before owner contribution reduction.

Could the owner do a maximum $54k or is the maximum around $48,540? I seem to be getting the 25% deductible limit of participating compensation and owners 20% deductible limit which goes on their personal 1040 crossed up right now. Thanks in advance.

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$54k is fine.  Not even close. As long as it works under 401(a)(4).

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5 hours ago, Dazednconfused said:

Profit sharing only plan (cross test), sole prop with 3 participants all receiving contribution of $11,000k (their total comp is $220,000). Owner's Schedule C line 31 is $265,000 before employee contribution. I come up with 1/2 se tax $11,287, so net comp of $242,712 before owner contribution reduction.

Could the owner do a maximum $54k or is the maximum around $48,540? I seem to be getting the 25% deductible limit of participating compensation and owners 20% deductible limit which goes on their personal 1040 crossed up right now. Thanks in advance.

There is no such thing as an "owners 20% deductible limit". The deduction limit applies to the PLAN as a whole. That may be what is confusing the issue  The allocation to the owner (and what shows on the 1040) is not limited to the 20% net (25% gross) that would apply to a one man plan (because the one man is the entire compensation so the limit applies to just the one participant).

Lawrence C. Starr, FLMI, CLU, CEBS, CPC, ChFC, EA, ATA, QPFC
President
Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc.
46 Daggett Drive
West Springfield, MA 01089
413-736-2066
larrystarr@qpc-inc.com

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