BG5150 Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 We have a potential client that employs people in several different unions. They want to start a plan for those union ee's only. But there are different requirements for eligibility for each union. The ER wants to put in "as specified in applicable CBA" Is that kosher? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Mike Preston Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 Sounds OK to me. I thought I had an adoption agreement which said exactly that at one point. I am out of the office today so can't look it up but maybe somebody else can confirm.
Belgarath Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 We have language like that. It isn't a specific election in the AA, but you'd use an "other" choice, and the language is in the boilerplate section of the document. I suspect most preapproved plans do have some type of provision such as what you want, these days.
Luke Bailey Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 I think this is done a lot, but I have some concern over not having the terms of coverage actually in the plan document. I am not aware of any guidance, formal or informal, from IRS on the issue, but maybe someone out there will know of some. Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
Belgarath Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 The boilerplate language in our preapproved plan states that the terms of the CBA are incorporated by reference and attached to the AA as an Addendum. If it is good enough for the IRS, good enough for me! I probably should have specified this in my first response. Does this alleviate your concern?
Luke Bailey Posted August 12, 2019 Posted August 12, 2019 Yes. Either way there is the practical problem that client will change the CBA without informing lawyer/plan drafter. We keep detailed tabular summaries including CBA expiration dates and ask client to update as necessary. But it can be a struggle. Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
John McMorrow Posted August 13, 2019 Posted August 13, 2019 I do not recommend the use of the language without incorporating the terms of the CBA AND including the relevant contract as an addendum to the Plan.
FormsRstillmylife Posted August 13, 2019 Posted August 13, 2019 When permitting amendment through the CBA, I add: If and to the extent such amendment purports to adopt a provision that would disqualify the plan, such purported amendment shall be of none effect.
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