emmetttrudy Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 I am trying to determine when the first RMD is due for this participant in a Cash Balance Plan. Details: - Participant is 100% owner of the plan sponsor. - Participant turns 70 1/2 in 2018. - Plan's original effective date = 1/1/2018. - End of year (12/31) valuation date. - Plan excludes service prior to the effective date of the Plan for vesting purposes, and the vesting schedule is a 3 year cliff. Would the first RMD be due 4/1/2021?
david rigby Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 Depends. What is the definition of Normal Retirement Age (not Normal Retirement Date)? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
emmetttrudy Posted January 13, 2020 Author Posted January 13, 2020 I forgot to mention an important detail too (since added to original post) that the participant is the 100% owner. NRA = later of 65 or 3rd anniversary of Plan participation date. So, his NRA would be 1/1/2021.
C. B. Zeller Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 First distribution calendar year is 2018. RBD is 4/1/2019. However participant is not vested at that point so no benefit is payable. As of 12/31/2019, participant has 2 years vesting service and is still not vested. Still no benefit payable. Upon completing a third year of vesting service in 2020, the benefit becomes payable. Exactly when could depend on how the plan defines a year of vesting service, however if benefits commence by 12/31/2020 you should be ok. Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
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