katdmin Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 Hello, a colleague asked me a question and I just don't know the answer. Client wants to purchase real estate in the plan but they don't have enough of a cash balance in their account. They are asking if they can take out a bank loan to purchase the RE (apparently, he wants to use current property in the plan as collateral to borrow the money.). We both don't believe it's possible (PT?) - the plan would be basically taking out a loan? Thank you!
shERPA Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 Plans can borrow to purchase real estate assuming the trust language in the document authorizes it (typically it does). This could create UBTI unless the loan meets the acquisition indebtedness exeception in IRC 514 (I forget the subsection at the moment). But good luck getting a conventional lender to loan to a plan. Lenders can't qualify plans using standard metrics, and they pretty much all want to use standard metrics so their loans can be sold. They will make suggestions such as telling the client to buy the property personally and then quit claim it to the plan after the financing is in place, or that they want the client to guarantee the loan. These sorts of lender workarounds typically create PTs. Mike Preston and Luke Bailey 2 I carry stuff uphill for others who get all the glory.
katdmin Posted February 11, 2021 Author Posted February 11, 2021 Thanks so much! This is definitely not my expertise!
JOH Posted February 11, 2021 Posted February 11, 2021 Plans can take out loan but it has to be a non-recourse loan. They can't use anything as collateral and the loan must be made strictly on the merits of the property (e.g. you can't look at credit score or income of the participant). And assuming income is generated from the property, there will be UDFI (a segment of UBIT) owed by the plan. There are some banks that specifically do non-recourse loans katdmin 1
Luke Bailey Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 On 2/10/2021 at 3:11 PM, shERPA said: IRC 514 (I forget the subsection at the moment) 514(c)(9). shERPA and katdmin 1 1 Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
Luke Bailey Posted February 12, 2021 Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, JOH said: has to be a non-recourse loan Presumably this is a self-directed plan. I think the loan could be recourse against the account and other assets of the account could be pledged. But completely agree that usually completely impractical. Some lenders that specialize in this will do for IRAs, but with a qualified plan with multiple participants, even self-directed, the paperwork would be novel and complicated, scaring off most lenders, if not the plan sponsor. katdmin 1 Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now