thepensionmaven Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 Client forgot to file form 5558 yesterday and was told by accountant o file one today, send overnight and also to get"into gear" and file Form 5500-SF today and check off the box for Form 5558. I know Ogden is backed up, but what are the odds this one would slip by with no penalty? I mean, I have never heard of a penalty for a form 5500 being one day late.
Karen McIver Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 If they file the 5500-sf today they only have a penalty for one day so I wouldn't sweat it. If it comes up, the client should just pay the penalty and move on. The biggest issue is that they will hear from the IRS two-three years from now and it'll take hours to remember what happened.
C. B. Zeller Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 Don't forget the DOL can impose substantial penalties for a late filing in addition to the IRS. The DOL penalty is currently $2,233 a day. DFVCP by comparison is $10 a day with a cap of $750. I think the choice is clear. Also, don't file the 5500-SF saying that it was filed under 5588, if 5588 was not filed. Remember the plan administrator is signing under penalty of perjury. Check the box for DFVCP and pay the $10. Bri 1 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
pmacduff Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 Isn't it also true that if the 5558 wasn't filed timely it's a moot point anyway because the IRS will go back to the original filing deadline to access late filing penalties? Bill Presson 1
Bill Presson Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 1 minute ago, pmacduff said: Isn't it also true that if the 5558 wasn't filed timely it's a moot point anyway because the IRS will go back to the original filing deadline to access late filing penalties? Correct. But I would assume yesterday is the original filing date if the 5558 was due yesterday. William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
pmacduff Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 I was thinking more of what the OP said about checking the 5558 box on the return when filed: "...get"into gear" and file Form 5500-SF today and check off the box for Form 5558. " Bill Presson 1
Bill Presson Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, pmacduff said: I was thinking more of what the OP said about checking the 5558 box on the return when filed: "...get"into gear" and file Form 5500-SF today and check off the box for Form 5558. " Gotcha! William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
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