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Also understand if the estate is small enough in many states the beneficiaries of the estate can use a "small estate affidavit" I am NOT an expert and it isn't really the TPA's job to educate people on them. But we see them on a regular basis and it seems to allow a fair amount of skipping of the probate process. You now know close to 100% of what I know and I am not sure if I helped or not.

That's a question that needs be directed to an attorney familiar with applicable state law. I'm the executor of my Dad's estate. After the court hearing to approve me as executor, the court provided a Letters Testamentary that shows I'm the executor of the estate. I'm in Texas, but would expect something similar in other states. The client's legal counsel should be able to tell them what kind of documentation is needed to show who represents the estate. If the participant didn't have enough assets to justify opening an estate, most states have rules for dealing with small estates without formally opening an estate. Again, the client's legal counsel should be able to assist. Just being named in the will as the executor doesn't necessarily mean they are the executor. At least in my state, the executor has to be approved by the court, if an estate is opened. Approval may just be a formality, but I did have to agree to it.

Everyone has made excellent points. Even if allowed(very doubtful) - consider the additional expenses of a periodic independent appraisal for valuation to report correct as a plan asset, as well as the expense of an ERISA bond covering a non-qualifying asset. Is the plan or employer willing to pay those expenses?

Many plan sponsors design one’s plan to follow this: 26 C.F.R. § 1.401(k)-1(d)(3)(ii)(B) https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-26/part-1/section-1.401(k)-1#p-1.401(k)-1(d)(3)(ii)(B). Of the seven situations deemed an immediate and heavy financial need, EBP’s paraphrases are of –(B)(2) and –(B)(4).

Peter and Connie have the proper accounting of the facts.

A mid-year prospective reduction or suspension of the safe harbor contributions for HCEs is addressed in Notice 2020-52. III. CLARIFICATION OF REQUIREMENTS FOR REDUCING CONTRIBUTIONS MADE ON BEHALF OF HCEs As described in section II.B of this notice, contributions made on behalf of HCEs are not included in the definition of safe harbor contributions. Accordingly, a mid-year change that reduces only contributions made on behalf of HCEs is not a reduction or suspension of safe harbor contributions described in §§ 1.401(k)-3(g) and 1.401(m)-3(h). However, a mid-year change that reduces only contributions made on behalf of HCEs would be a mid-year change to a plan’s required safe harbor notice content for purposes of section III.B of Notice 2016-16. Therefore, in order to satisfy the notice and election opportunity conditions of section III.C of Notice 2016-16, which apply generally to changes that affect required safe harbor notice content and are not reductions or suspensions of safe harbor contributions, an updated safe harbor notice and an election opportunity must be provided to HCEs to whom the mid-year change applies, determined as of the date of issuance of the updated safe harbor notice.1 https://www.irs.gov/irb/2020-29_IRB#NOT-2020-52

I would like to chime in. Participants actual account balance is the sum of the actual assets in his account plus the value of the outstanding loan. Assets remaining after the loan - $25,000 Outstanding loan - $25,000 His account balance is $50,000 50% of this is $25,000 Less outstanding loan of $25,000 Remaining loan available is $0 You need to remember to add back in the loan since it is part of his account value before you determine the 50% of vested balance. Unless the asset value drops from the original time you took the loan, you should never get a negative answer.

In 1977, as I began law school, I started working as a law clerk and was quickly given responsibility for the firm’s qualified plan practice. When I passed the bar in 1980, I stepped fully into a career that has now spanned more than four decades. As I begin to slowly wind down those years as an ERISA attorney, I am deeply grateful for the opportunities that have come my way and for the encouragement and help of so many good men and women. I never dreamed, in the ’70s and ’80s, where this practice would take me. As this year began, my ERISA work fell into six main roles: I’m an author. I have written or co-authored five books dealing with retirement plans, and am nearly done with my sixth—the ERISA Fiduciary Navigator eSource—all published by ERISApedia.com. I head the ERISApedia ASK service, where my protégé, Adriana Starr, and I answer questions from ERISA practitioners. I present webcasts and live seminars on retirement topics. I draft plan documents and interim amendments on behalf of the Relius division of FIS. I serve as of counsel to the Ferenczy Benefit Law Center. I assist some clients in a private practice. One of the observations that has struck me over the years about the Employee Retirement Income Security Act is that it never defines “retirement.” My own working definition has been “separating from service once you’re old.” But the older I get, the older “old” gets. Still, as I near RMD age (even after SECURE 2.0), it's time to start thinking about saddling up and riding into the sunset. I envision retirement as gradually dropping things out of the saddlebags. So, with mixed emotions, I announce that I will no longer be acting as of counsel to the Ferenczy Benefit Law Center or conducting a private practice. I will consult on special cases, but otherwise, for now, my professional endeavors will focus on writing, teaching, FIS, and the ASK service. Planning for the financial side of retirement has been the easy part. The emotional and professional side is more challenging. My hope is that a slow and gentle ride toward tomorrow will make that transition easier. I am profoundly grateful to the colleagues, clients, and friends who have shared this journey with me—and I look forward to continuing to write, teach, and cheer you on from slightly lighter saddlebags.