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Schedule R
For a profit sharing plan that is not subject to minimum funding rules, is a schedule R required? I believe the answer to this question is maybe... So, with the additional information that a trust company pays the distributions and uses their EIN on 1099Rs, then is the Schedule R required?
I believe it is required because the EIN used does not belong to the plan sponsor or plan administrator( based on the ERISA outline book and the Schedule R instructions). The real question being asked is about the reference to "pension plans" in the instructions. Is "pension plans" intended to include all retirement plans (Pension vs. Welfare) or actual pension plans (defined benefit type plans)?
I would like to know what other pension professionals think on this issue please.
Thanks,
Jodie
Corrective Contributions
Per Rev. Proc. 2008-50, you don't have to make corrective distributions of $75 or less if the cost is more than the distribution. But Rev. Proc. 2008-50 says further that this rule does not apply to corrective contributions.
So if you're corrective contribution for one participant is less than $75, do you have to make it?
If so, what do you do? Allocate it to the other employees' accounts or use it to pay plan expenses (if you can) or something like that?
HDHP w/HSA and leftover FSA - Question
As of October 1, 2010 I elected a HDHP. Since I was enrolled in the Flex Plan from Jan. 1, 2010 to Dec. 31, 2010, I did not open a Health Savings Account until around January 8th of 2011.
On our flex plan, if there is any money left over from all enrollees at the end of the plan year (Dec. 31, 2010) the money less any terminated employees who used more than they deposited subtracted from it, then the rest of the money is evenly distributed to all employees who participated in the plan on April 27, 2011 (the distribution date). Since I participated in the plan for the 2010 plan year I was eligible for the distribution. So as of April 27, 2011 I now have about $60 available to be reimbursed for any expenses after that date.
My question is would I have to use this extra disbursement for ONLY dental or vision care since I now have a Health Savings Account?
Thank you!
IRS Notice - 2008 Form 5500 not received
Client just received IRS notice stating they never received the Form 5500 for 2008. Client does not have signed copy in their files. They were not our client then and all HR personnel has changed. However, owner says he remembers signing form.
I am not comfortable with client backdating signature. So is their only option DFVCP? any other thoughts?
Thanks!
457(f) Plan Document
Does anyone know where I can purchase a 457(f) plan document. Sungard Corbel is no longer offering a 457(f) document as part of its 457 plan services. And FTWilliam only offers 409A and 457(b) documents (no 457(f) document).
Thanks.
non discrimination testing
a plan tests on the annual method.
a 2011 db valuation uses projected 2011 pay.
can non discrimination testing use the 2011 estimated pay as used in the val or does the non discrimination have to wait until after 2011 completed and use actual 2011 pay for testing?
thanks
Protected Benefit Issue Regarding NRA Change from 59 to 62
The NRA in the DB plan was amended from 59 to 62, effective 1/1/2009. A participant terminated 3/1/2009. She had previously been given a distribution estimate using Age 59 for the NRA. After she terminated she was given a distribution packet reflecting the NRA to be Age 62, and of course, this amount was significantly less than the estimate using NRA 59. Isn't there a protection of benefit issue here? Would the participant not be due the higher amount that she had accrued through 12/31/2008 based on the NRA of 59?
Relative Value
After a discussion with a prospect, we find that their defined benefit plan was frozen since August of 2003. The plan offers a subsidized early retirement option (2% per year reduction from age 65 to age 55). The plan offers a handful of annuity options, but only the participants employed January 1, 2001 or later are eligible for the lump sum option.
They have not been providing relative value disclosures when they provide distribution options for participants. The plan sponsor is a for-profit corporation.
Are there exemptions or exceptions that could apply here to the relative value disclosure rules?
If this plan has been violating this requirement, what could be the remedy for this?
Ethics CPE
The July 29, 2011 IRS Phone forum covers ethics. Anyone need a free ethics CPE credit?
Form 8955-SSA
From the IRS Employee Plans News yesterday:
Issue: June 21, 2011
Inside This Issue
Filing Date Extended for 2009 and 2010 Form 8955-SSA
The filing due date for the 2009 and 2010 Form 8955-SSA, Annual Registration Statement Identifying Separated Participants with Deferred Vested Benefits, will be extended in guidance to be released shortly. The modified due date is the later of (1) January 17, 2012 and (2) the due date that generally applies for filing the Form 8955-SSA for 2010. No Form 5558 extensions will be granted for the January 17, 2012 due date.
Form 8955-SSA replaces Schedule SSA of Form 5500 beginning with the 2009 plan year. The form is used to report information about participants with deferred vested benefits. The 2009 form and instructions are now available, and the 2010 form is expected to be released shortly.
Plan administrators must file Form 8955-SSA with the IRS and not through the EFAST2 filing system. The general filing due date is the last day of the seventh month following the last day of the plan year, plus extensions.
See Form 8955-SSA Resources for forms, Frequently Asked Questions, published guidance and information for e-file providers.
Tax-exempt entity controlled group aggregation rules under 1.414(c)-5
The Treasury Regulations issued in 2007 for Section 1.414©-5 provide special aggregation rules for purposes of determining controlled group status for organizations that are tax-exempt under IRC 501(a). Is there any guidance available with respect to non-profit organizations that are not tax-exempt under IRC 501(a)?
COBRA Fully Insured to Self Funded New York
New York State has extended COBRA benefits to 36 months. This extension applys to fully insured plans. I have a client that has elected to go self funded and thereby go back to the federal COBRA of 18 months. The client currently has COBRA participants that are covered under the 36 month extension under thier old fully insured plan.
What are the notification requirments for these members? Can the client grandfather the effected COBRA participants for one more month? Any assitance on this would be great
Eliminate Hardship
Can hardship distributions be eliminated from an ERISA 403(b) plan? Does tax code regulation 1.411(d)-4 Q&A-2(b)(2)(x) provides an exception to the ERISA 204(g) cut-back rules for 403(b) plans? Is a 403(b) plan considered to be a CODA or profit-sharing plan under this regulation?
1.411(d)-4 Q&A-2(b)(2)(x) provides: Amendment of hardship distribution standards. A qualified cash or deferred arrangement that permits hardship distributions under §1.401(k)-1(d)(3) may be amended to specify or modify nondiscriminatory and objective standards for determining the existence of an immediate and heavy financial need, the amount necessary to meet the need, or other conditions relating to eligibility to receive a hardship distribution. For example, a plan will not be treated as violating section 411(d)(6) merely because it is amended to specify or modify the resources an employee must exhaust to qualify for a hardship distribution or to require employees to provide additional statements or representations to establish the existence of a hardship. A qualified cash or deferred arrangement may also be amended to eliminate hardship distributions. The provisions of this paragraph also apply to profit-sharing or stock bonus plans that permit hardship distributions, whether or not the hardship distributions are limited to those described in §1.401(k)-1(d)(3).
Change in Status?
Employee has enrolled 17-year old step child in cafeteria plan. Step child moves out and in with birth mother and enrolls in birth mother's plan. Employee wants to end contributions for the step child. Change in status?
husband's distribution and roll over to wife, in same plan
We got a very strange question today, and not one of us has ever encountered it. And all of us are apparently having heat-induced brain meltdowns.
Two married people are in the same plan. Husband wants to retire or go on disability or get a plan-permitted in-service distribution (we are not sure which, not even sure he is leaving the employer...). He wants to know if he can roll the money into his wife's plan account. Or just transfer his account to her. We all have the same automatic reaction of NO but we don't know why. Any ideas? There is no divorce, no court order, just a strange guy and his strange request. Thanks in advance!
Corrective Distribution and Related Match
If a plan is distributing an excess deferral or excess contribution that has a related match should earnings/losses be calculated on the forfeited match?
The regs don't seem clear so it appears that the plan document would control.
Thanks!
Where to Deduct on Tax Return
I just want to be sure where the following plan deductions would be taken on a corporation's tax return. I have a Limited Liability Corporation being taxed as a sole proprietorship. This corporation has a 401(k) plan as well as a Cash balance Defined Benefit plan. Please indicate where the following deductions would be taken; either on line 28 on the front of the 1040 or on line 19 of the Schedule C:
With regard to the 401(k) Plan:
Owners Salary Deferral
Owners Safe Harbor Match
Owners Discretionary Contribution
Non-Owners Salary Deferrals
Non-Owners Safe Harbor Match
Non-Owners Discretionary Contribution
With regard to the Defined Benefit Plan:
Defined Benefit Plan Contribution (and I would assume this answer wouldn't change whether the Plan is a Cash Balance Plan or not).
This case I am working has included and excluded different categories of contributions on the Schedule C each year since 2006. I just want to make sure the the proper deeductions have been taken in the proper places. When I spoke to the CPA, she didn't have a clue (some CPA!).
Thanks
Abruptly End an FSA Plan Year and Start a New One Mid Year?
I have a client that has asked to end the current FSA plan year (1/1 to 12/31), and start a new plan year on 7/1. Their Health Plan renewal is 7/1 and they are making significant changes to the Health plan that would cause hardship to those who have an FSA in progress that would not cover the new expenses, and also to those who need to implement an FSA for the new expenses.
I've read a ton of code that says this does not cause a Change of Election qualifying event, but doesn't necessarily cover guidance about ending the plan and starting over.
What are their options, if any?
Thank you in advance for your responses!
CJL
Plan Amendment to Change Time and Form of Payment
I understand from the 409A regulations that a plan providing the employer and/or employee discretion to make subsequent deferral elections in the time/form of payment are subject to 1/5 year rules, etc. However, what happens if the employer unilaterally (but with the acquiescence of the participant) amends the plan to change the time and form of payment?
For example, a plan currently provides a life annuity at age 62 (with no subsequent election/discretion). The employer--which has reserved the authority to amend the plan unilaterally--amends the plan to state that the participant now is entitled to a 15-year term certain starting at age 67. Assume employee is fully vested and will not sue in the event this equates to a reduction in vested benefits.
From my reading of the 409A regulations, this does not violate the subsequent deferral elections because the plan does not give anyone the discretion or election to change the time/form of payments--it is simply accomplished by plan amendment. Does the employer's reservation of rights to amend the plan count as discretion to make a subsequent deferral election? If so, the plan (and lots of others) would have already violated 409A because it does not include the 1/5 year delay rules, which are required in the plan itself per the subsequent deferral election rules.
Despite this, it doesn't quite sit right with me. I assume the counterpoint is that this method of subsequent elections leaves the decision up to the employer, which could refuse to amend the plan to change the time/form per the employee's wishes.
Any thoughts?
Relius - Web Client
So...are we the only firm disappointed with Relius and Web Client. Does the other providers have the 5500EZ ready yet?






