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- 1 is newly eligible, older and 0% vested;
- 1 is a younger, long service employee who has terminated this year with less than 501 hours and is 100% vested (wage is about 1/3 of the older NHCE).
- Q: (1) Is it permissible to increase the terminated NHCEs PS allocation rate in order to pass (a)(4) testing? (2) Could it be argued effectively that increasing the terminated NHCE is more reasonable than the active NHCE because the terminated NHCE is 100% vested whereas the active NHCE is 0% vested? (3) If this could be considered abusive on review, would it be acceptable if both NHCEs received the increased PS allocation rate, noting that in doing so the terminated NHCE would still be the only one contributing to a passing test result?
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Did anyone publish a book on SECURE 2022?
For decades, practitioners relied on CCH/Wolters Kluwer, RIA/Thomson Reuters, and other tax law publishers to make a book to explain (and put into Code sections) Congress’s recent tax Act.
Last December, CCH decided not to publish its customary “Law, Explanation and Analysis” on SECURE 2022.
BenefitsLink neighbors, are you aware of any publisher’s book (not electronic-only text) on SECURE 2022?
Happy Holidays to you all!
And the daylight hours start s l o w l y getting longer again. Woohoo!
"Mega" 401(k)
I've not heard this term. What's the difference, if any, between this "mega" 401(k) and a 401(k) that allows for both Roth deferrals and employee voluntary contributions?
SIMPLE IRA contributions made not using payroll
Hello. I have a situation where an S Corporation sole shareholder set up a SIMPLE IRA plan for himself and his three employees in April, 2022 using his financial broker. In 2022, he deposited 14,000 for himself into this plan with money from his savings account. There was no payroll withholding for this plan for the owner or his employees. He never notified payroll he even had this plan. He was funding this plan through his financial advisor, who I recently learned turned over his signed Form 5304 to someone else. Fast forward to December 2023, when his payroll service was asked how much he could contribute for 2023? Since there was no knowledge of this plan's existence, the answer was "What plan?".
My question is what happens now? I have an owner with 14,000 in a SIMPLE IRA that got there without payroll, nothing for any employees, and no matching. If the money is removed it will come on a 1099-R as taxable, plus it will be less than two years since it was deposited which is one penalty, early withdrawal which is another penalty, and then the penalty for the whole plan being administered incorrectly. Since this 14,00 was already taxed, how do we fix this where the money isn't taxed all over again?
I have asked several professionals about this but I can't get any answer. I just hear this doesn't happen.
Thank you in advance for any insight.
Form 8881, Small plan tax credit form instructions?
Hi Folks!
The IRS has updated Form 8881, but I don't see updated instructions. Has anyone seen some? Or know when they might come out?
Another question - what is the point of Part II, Line 10? how is it different from Line 9? And the two lines are supposed to be added together for Line 11? That section appears to be unchanged from earlier years, so I'm hoping someone else can explain it to me.
Thanks!
Seperate Plans / Commingled Accounts
I need to find the DOL reg or whatever it is that says something along the lines of, if the investments of more than one plan are commingled and available to pay teh benefits of all plans than it is considered a single plan for auditing purposes. Does anyone know where the actual reg is??
Changing val date upon termination
Hi
DB plan, one lifer, EOY val.
Plan is slightly underfunded but creating a large required contribution which will make it over funded.
Can I switch to BOY val with the above status?
Thanks
Transition period over safe harbor and non-safe harbor plan
We are in a bit of a pickle :). We are the TPAs for Company A. Company A is a safe harbor match plan (calendar year).
Company A purchased Company B back in May of 2022 and never told us about it (of course).
Company B has their own plan (non-safe harbor), they DID tell their service provider about the acquisition back in 2022. The service provider said NO PROBLEM you have 2 years due to the transition period thinking they had until May of 2024. Company A finally decided to get us in the loop, and we just told them guess what the transition period ends in a week.
Needless to say, we're scrambling a bit. We can't merge as of 1/1/2024, we can't get the prior service provider to amend company B's plan to a safe harbor match plan for 2024 (understandably i guess). So now what?
The plan is to merge Company B's plan (non-safe harbor calendar year plan) in to Company A's plan (our client, safe harbor match, calendar year plan). We're thinking the best option is to amend company A's plan to add company B as an adopting ER and bring all the employees of company B on to company A's plan as of 1/1/2024. Freeze Company B's plan i guess and take it over and then merger it as of 1/1/2025....
Converting a DB Plan into a Cash Balance Plan
Good afternoon everyone, I hope all is well. I have a new client that has a traditional DB Plan that started in '21. They want to convert that into a Cash Balance Plan.
Is there a way to simply restate the Plan (which we need to do anyway) and convert it into a CB? Or do we need to terminate and start a new plan?
401-k Plan Short Year
Is any date acceptable for a traditional 401-k plan to start a plan and have a short plan year? (assume all notices have been given to employees). Does it have to be beginning of month? Quarter? or could for example, it be December 20th? Thanks
National Medical Support Notice for an ICHRA
ICHRAs are brand new to me so I'm curious how an employer would comply with a National Medical Support Notice for an employee eligible to participate in an ICHRA. It's my understanding that ICHRAs are considered group health plans subject to ERISA requiring them to comply with a QMCSO. Anyone have experience with this?
Any insight is greatly appreciated.
Freezing Plans; How/If Does a Plan Freeze Affect the Reckoning of Years of Participation and/or Years of Service, and the High Three Year Streak for § 415(b) Deliberations
The freezing of a defined benefit plan perforce seems to affect the tallying of accrual service, and perhaps also the reckoning of the remuneration of which the accrued benefit serves as a function. Perhaps conversely, freezing the plan might not affect the reckoning of the high three year remuneration streak for § 415(b) deliberations. Please provide helpful guidance on this situation.
Also, the reckoning of years of service and/or years of participation might remain unaffected. If guidance has resolved this situation, please provide in a reply.
401(m) Coverage Failure
A non-governmental 403(b) plan has no class exclusions for elective deferrals so everyone is eligible to participate. The plan has several class exclusions for match - of course they are all NHCE and the plan fails the ratio percentage test - the average benefits test is even worse. We can get the ratio percentage test to pass with an 11g amendment to bring-in one of the excluded classes. My question - if none of these employees being brought-in by the 11g amendment elected to defer, is the plan sponsor required to give them a contribution? If so, how is it calculated?
There's always something...
Got asked this question today:
Owner of company requested an in-service withdrawal for $10,000 (numbers are rounded and fictional). Received two checks, one for $8,000 and one for $2,000. Owner then turned around and ran the $8,000 through payroll, taking no withholding or taxes whatsoever on it. And then, to top it off, remitted the $2,000 through EFTPS as a Form 945 tax.
The owner got forms from their payroll provider as to how to "correct" the error. I looked at them and have no idea what they want this individual to do. Has anyone ever encountered a situation like this?
Thanks for any replies.
NQDC Vesting and Earnings - how to report on W-2
401k SH with PS - Increase PS to Term <501 hours acceptable?
We have a small cross-tested 401k Profit Sharing Plan that provides 3% SHNEC to all plus a discretionary Profit Sharing (PS), all in their own PS allocation rate group.
3 HCEs
2 NHCEs
Thank you
Question about Divorce Decree
What does the Divorce Decree mean, It's Reads: the Plaintiff shall be entitled to her marital share in any benefits under Defendant's pension plan, or payments made in said pension plan, through his place of employment if, as and when Defendant's entitled to receive any such benefits, and Plaintiff's interest in said plan benefit shall be calculated as of the date the benefits are to be paid under said plan using the the Bangs Formula?
I should have addressed this with the court, but what does this mean for my ex-wife's portion of my benefits?
HRA Plan - 5500 reporting
My company is being asked to take over an HRA (section 105) plan. The plan has never filed a form 5500.
I am assuming they should be. Secondly, if there are over 120 participants - would they need an audit? I again am assuming yes. I would be thankful for any assistance on this.
Thanks!
vesting for stand-alone plan merging into MEP
Hi. I've got a stand-alone plan that has 6-year vesting (2/20). They are merging into a MEP run by a payroll/benefits firm that has 100% immediate vesting. What happens to the vesting for these people?
For new money, I presume that it follows the MEP vesting. What about the old money?
Thanks.
How wide are price differences for retirement plan services?
About healthcare services, a news article this morning describes wide price variations for the same service—even in the same hospital—based on prices negotiated with a health plan. For example, an injection of Rituximab at Rush University Medical Center in Chicago ranged from $899.33 to $9,260.13, and a vaginal delivery with post-delivery care in Los Angeles ranged from $1,183 to $32,563. Sarah Hansard, Hospital Pricing Data Troves Raise Stakes on Employer Plan Costs, Bloomberg Law Daily Labor Deport (Dec. 18, 2023, 5:05 AM EST).
Following size and some other factors, there are price differences for most kinds of services a retirement plan buys. But are the ranges as wide as the examples quoted above?
I don’t disparage price differences. There are many legitimate reasons for prices to differ. Among them: Some fixed costs are about the same for a plan no matter its size. Some variable costs can be much more for a small plan than for a big plan. And some economies of scale, with either a plan or a service provider, can affect costs and prices.
Rather, I hope to learn more about how much prices differ.













